I asked this elsewhere, I’m gonna ask you here again: if I pay for premium am I then going to be served a version of the video without the creator’s built in sponsor ad reads? No? Then most creators are also part of the problem.
Am I complaining? I support creators directly because it’s a more fair exchange imo. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy in this whole situation when it comes to YouTube and paying for premium.
I support creators directly because it’s a more fair exchange imo
Ok that's nice. But what you're doing is an add-on, not a replacement for the original product being sold at the seller's terms (what you're complaining about).
If the creators you want to support choose to distribute their content exclusively from an ad-funded system, then you have no choice to but to either (1) watch the ads (2) pay to not watch the ads or 3) stop supporting the creator.
If you choose (2) and the creators still sneak ads into their content, then you have still the choice to (2a) watch the ads (2b) fast forward the ads (3) stop supporting the creator.
You're choosing (1) and then complaining that you have to watch ads, which doesn't make sense.
You're forgetting option 4) Use an adblocker, don't watch ads, contribute in other ways.
And again, I'm not complaining about anything. I run adblockers, my youtube consumption is probably < 30 minutes a year so it's not even an issue for me personally. I'm just pointing out the double standard applied to creators: we're hurting them when we block ads but we should be fine getting served ads from them even when we're paying for an ad free experience.
You're forgetting option 4) Use an adblocker, don't watch ads, contribute in other ways.
Well this thread is about how using an adblocker is becoming increasingly difficult, which is causing a lot of upset. And "contribute in other ways" is not really a solution. If everyone did what you do, YouTube would shut down.
I'm just pointing out the double standard applied to creators
I don't think it's a double standard. The creators are choosing to inject ads into their content because they want more money. If people like you were paying for Premium instead of blocking ads maybe they wouldn't feel the need to do this as often, who knows.
Either way, it's their choice and they're free to make their channel 99% ads if they think it will benefit them. As a paying Premium subscriber, I don't like injected ads either. If I see them I fast forward, and if that gets too annoying then I unsubscribe.
Absolutely, I'm just asking why they get a pass. If companies do it we're all enraged but if creators do it it's fine. It's just plain weird.
If I see them I fast forward
Would you do the same if youtube started showing you ads even though you're subscribed to premium? Would you just shrugh it out as a "well they want more money"? I'd bet no, you'd probably be pissed and rightfully so.
I agree, I don't know why people criticize Google but not the creators. Personally, I'm not criticizing either.
I'd bet no, you'd probably be pissed and rightfully so.
I'd be disappointed, and then I'd have to decide if I wanted to keep paying them or take my business elsewhere. I wouldn't be pissed, though. Because Google doesn't owe me anything.
Just like the creators, they're running a business, so it is what it is. I believe in free markets and if Google stops making a product worth paying for it will work itself out via a competitor taking market share or something else.
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I asked this elsewhere, I’m gonna ask you here again: if I pay for premium am I then going to be served a version of the video without the creator’s built in sponsor ad reads? No? Then most creators are also part of the problem.
Ok then if the creators are bad and the platform is bad then it should be pretty easy for you to stop supporting them (and stop complaining).
Am I complaining? I support creators directly because it’s a more fair exchange imo. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy in this whole situation when it comes to YouTube and paying for premium.
Yes.
Ok that's nice. But what you're doing is an add-on, not a replacement for the original product being sold at the seller's terms (what you're complaining about).
If the creators you want to support choose to distribute their content exclusively from an ad-funded system, then you have no choice to but to either (1) watch the ads (2) pay to not watch the ads or 3) stop supporting the creator.
If you choose (2) and the creators still sneak ads into their content, then you have still the choice to (2a) watch the ads (2b) fast forward the ads (3) stop supporting the creator.
You're choosing (1) and then complaining that you have to watch ads, which doesn't make sense.
You're forgetting option 4) Use an adblocker, don't watch ads, contribute in other ways.
And again, I'm not complaining about anything. I run adblockers, my youtube consumption is probably < 30 minutes a year so it's not even an issue for me personally. I'm just pointing out the double standard applied to creators: we're hurting them when we block ads but we should be fine getting served ads from them even when we're paying for an ad free experience.
Why that double standard exists? No clue.
Well this thread is about how using an adblocker is becoming increasingly difficult, which is causing a lot of upset. And "contribute in other ways" is not really a solution. If everyone did what you do, YouTube would shut down.
I don't think it's a double standard. The creators are choosing to inject ads into their content because they want more money. If people like you were paying for Premium instead of blocking ads maybe they wouldn't feel the need to do this as often, who knows.
Either way, it's their choice and they're free to make their channel 99% ads if they think it will benefit them. As a paying Premium subscriber, I don't like injected ads either. If I see them I fast forward, and if that gets too annoying then I unsubscribe.
Absolutely, I'm just asking why they get a pass. If companies do it we're all enraged but if creators do it it's fine. It's just plain weird.
Would you do the same if youtube started showing you ads even though you're subscribed to premium? Would you just shrugh it out as a "well they want more money"? I'd bet no, you'd probably be pissed and rightfully so.
I agree, I don't know why people criticize Google but not the creators. Personally, I'm not criticizing either.
I'd be disappointed, and then I'd have to decide if I wanted to keep paying them or take my business elsewhere. I wouldn't be pissed, though. Because Google doesn't owe me anything.
Just like the creators, they're running a business, so it is what it is. I believe in free markets and if Google stops making a product worth paying for it will work itself out via a competitor taking market share or something else.