A much better idea would be to donate all that money to EFF or similar organizations
So how do you suggest we fund content creators? Or should they all just start working for free to entertain you without exposing you to those horrible dangerous ads?
False dilemma. I'm sure there are ways for content creators to make money without us getting spied on or served malware. It's also a poor excuse as most of them can't live off of what Google pays them to begin with. Not to mention that Google's bots can take away that revenue on a whim.
I'm sure there are ways for content creators to make money without us getting spied on or served malware
Name one. And please make sure your solution actually exists and isn't just a fantasy of how the world should work.
It's also a poor excuse as most of them can't live off of what Google pays them to begin with
It's not all or nothing. Creators can be incentivised to earn money even if it's not enough to live off of. And by the way, many do quite well, to the point where it replaces and surpasses their family income.
YouTube would not be what it is today without the money incentive.
Not to mention that Google's bots can take away that revenue on a whim
Agree but that's a risk they've determined is worth taking, again because of the money incentive.
You're effectively claiming that anything a monopoly does is fundamental to how the world works and anything short of that is equivalent to starving content creators.
What a ridiculous assumption. If you can't even agree that conducting mass surveillance or distributing malware should be off limits, there's nothing you can do to make me take your claims seriously.
It's not all or nothing.
Exactly, Google doesn't have to screw over people this hard to deliver ads. But they do it because they can.
And by the way, many do quite well, to the point where it replaces and surpasses their family income.
That sounds exactly like what you'd hear from a get rich quick scheme. Still doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of people aren't going to "make it." It's not a reliable source of income.
Agree but that's a risk they've determined is worth taking
Creators haven't determined anything, they just have no choice because network effects and barrier to entry is granting Google a monopoly.
I don't know what to tell you. Millions of people watch YouTube because they get something from it, ads or not. Creators put in a ton of effort to produce content for YouTube because they believe it's worth it for to them to do so.
Everybody has a choice.
You've decided to boycott Google (I'm assuming, otherwise you're a massive hypocrite), which is also a perfectly fine choice.
Looks like barely any content on there compared to YouTube. Probably an steep uphill battle for them to get to the point where creators can make anything close to what they can make today on YouTube. And I can only watch one video before I have to get my credit card out. Hard pass.
Patreon, Floatplane
I don't think the "subscription fee per content creator" model is a good comparison. We have subscription fatique already. Imagine if YouTube required you pay $/month per channel to watch anything. No way.
Patreon doesn't host videos. Each of the video creators I support on Patreon simply uploads their rewards as unlisted YouTube videos or uses a Vimeo integration.
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So how do you suggest we fund content creators? Or should they all just start working for free to entertain you without exposing you to those horrible dangerous ads?
False dilemma. I'm sure there are ways for content creators to make money without us getting spied on or served malware. It's also a poor excuse as most of them can't live off of what Google pays them to begin with. Not to mention that Google's bots can take away that revenue on a whim.
Name one. And please make sure your solution actually exists and isn't just a fantasy of how the world should work.
It's not all or nothing. Creators can be incentivised to earn money even if it's not enough to live off of. And by the way, many do quite well, to the point where it replaces and surpasses their family income.
YouTube would not be what it is today without the money incentive.
Agree but that's a risk they've determined is worth taking, again because of the money incentive.
You're effectively claiming that anything a monopoly does is fundamental to how the world works and anything short of that is equivalent to starving content creators.
What a ridiculous assumption. If you can't even agree that conducting mass surveillance or distributing malware should be off limits, there's nothing you can do to make me take your claims seriously.
Exactly, Google doesn't have to screw over people this hard to deliver ads. But they do it because they can.
That sounds exactly like what you'd hear from a get rich quick scheme. Still doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of people aren't going to "make it." It's not a reliable source of income.
Creators haven't determined anything, they just have no choice because network effects and barrier to entry is granting Google a monopoly.
I don't know what to tell you. Millions of people watch YouTube because they get something from it, ads or not. Creators put in a ton of effort to produce content for YouTube because they believe it's worth it for to them to do so.
Everybody has a choice.
You've decided to boycott Google (I'm assuming, otherwise you're a massive hypocrite), which is also a perfectly fine choice.
Patreon, Nebula, Floatplane
Looks like barely any content on there compared to YouTube. Probably an steep uphill battle for them to get to the point where creators can make anything close to what they can make today on YouTube. And I can only watch one video before I have to get my credit card out. Hard pass.
I don't think the "subscription fee per content creator" model is a good comparison. We have subscription fatique already. Imagine if YouTube required you pay $/month per channel to watch anything. No way.
Patreon doesn't host videos. Each of the video creators I support on Patreon simply uploads their rewards as unlisted YouTube videos or uses a Vimeo integration.