What really surprises me is that the same people who did the revolutionary Rails years ago came up with rather mediocre products afterwards.
I don't know anybody who is using Basecamp nowadays (and that's their best known product), the same with obscure Highrise and Backpack. Campfire is the only one which is quite popular and well used. But Campfire is just a chat server, really no rocket science and could be substituted by tons of similar services (but I still like it because of the hooks).
Much like "How could X have won, no one I know voted for him", this is a reflection more on one's social circles than the product. (Though there are certainly very successful companies that none of us will ever hear about even third hand.)
Most business is conducted in boring, quietly profitable obscurity.
I used it back in the day and liked it. Other than being used to Basecamp, I don't really see why anybody would choose it over Asana in 2012 though. Given the choice between a free Basecamp and Asana it would still be an easy decision.
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What really surprises me is that the same people who did the revolutionary Rails years ago came up with rather mediocre products afterwards.
I don't know anybody who is using Basecamp nowadays (and that's their best known product), the same with obscure Highrise and Backpack. Campfire is the only one which is quite popular and well used. But Campfire is just a chat server, really no rocket science and could be substituted by tons of similar services (but I still like it because of the hooks).
> I don't know anybody who is using Basecamp nowadays
Did I miss a joke?
Millions of people in 150,000 companies in 180 countries use Basecamp.
Basecamp.com/basecamphq.com is the 393rd highest traffic site in the US.
Much like "How could X have won, no one I know voted for him", this is a reflection more on one's social circles than the product. (Though there are certainly very successful companies that none of us will ever hear about even third hand.)
Most business is conducted in boring, quietly profitable obscurity.
What does the fact that you don't know anyone using Basecamp have to do with the quality of the product?
I too thought the old basecamp was terrible but the new one is quite nice.
I used it back in the day and liked it. Other than being used to Basecamp, I don't really see why anybody would choose it over Asana in 2012 though. Given the choice between a free Basecamp and Asana it would still be an easy decision.
I get more done in new Basecamp than in Asana. Basecamp is better designed and better engineered.
I found Asana quite frustrating to use, and am happy using Basecamp.
Check the new basecamp, it is quite nice technically.