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I just don't believe it's possible to reason without consciousness. Combined with intelligence, memory, etc it leads to actual understanding rather than just imitation, which is where AI is today.

I just don't believe it's possible to reason without consciousness.

This is called an argument. It's what philosophers make.

Your attitude is a pretty typical one: "Philosophy is stupid, but this philosophical viewpoint that I have is special and somehow not bound to the things that apply to philosophy." It's a very common and predictable move from those that lack knowledge of the subject; the New Atheists and the philosophy of religion are a very prominent example.

I just don't believe

Is it possible to compute without consciousness? (Yes.)

Is it possible to perform calculation over ideas without consciousness? Apparently so.

understanding

You should prove that a "formal" form of understanding would be insufficient for reasoning.

so what is that "etc"?

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