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I'm my experience it's the exact opposite and they lay off ICs and leave the managers largely in place, making it worse.

Over the past 24 years, I've been through six major layoffs and it is always the middle managers that go first. Recently my company went through a massive layoff. I don't know a single developer that was let go, but plenty of middle and upper managers were.

I’ve seen this first hand. You wind up with “managers” that have 1 or 2 reports. What are they going all day? Going to meetings, it seems.

try seeing it from the other perspective: i am tasked with doing X, but i have to spend all day every day discussing X, and Y and Z with the higher ups and other teams, so that i have to get an assistant to actually do X.

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