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Sorry, I'm not following. I don't bike as much lately, but I was an ardent cyclist here for more than a decade. If I won't trust a vehicle as a pedestrian, where speeds are lower and I'm more maneuverable, I'm going to trust it even less as a cyclist in traffic. So if bryanlarsen thought the cyclist comparison to be unfavorable to Waymo, then I'm agreeing. But I think he thought it would be favorable, and I'd disagree on both counts.

Drivers in SF routinely do things that make cyclists feel unsafe. Waymo's don't.

What's your evidence for that? As I said, I've seen them do things that make me give them a wide berth. And as I explained, that berth would only get wider on a bike, when I'm more vulnerable.

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