>> becomes untenable when a single year costs 80k.
Where are people going to college where its 80K a year? I went to a neighboring four year state college where I got reciprocity and graduated with only 15K in debt which I was able to pay off in about 4 years.
College is not "extremely expensive" if you actually do your research. A lot of my friends saved money by taking all their generals at a community college, then transferred to a four year college where they finished in two years because all they had left to get done was their program specific classes.
You also have tons of two year technical colleges where you can get a degree in tons of different areas, and there's also trade schools where day 1, you're working in your field and you apprentice under a master to become a journeyman. The trades are in crazy high demand and most of those entry level at around 60K/year and go up from there.
College is only expensive if you make it expensive. It doesn't take much to get a decent degree and find an in-demand industry where you can make good money. Tons of my friends opted for two year tech degrees. Many of them went into graphic design and networking and had a fraction of the debt I had and were all earning-40-50K/year right out of school.
There are also thousands of different scholarships and grants available to low income families and if you're a decent student, you can also get a fractional scholarship that would take care of some of it. You also have to consider the military or National Guard. I had several close friends that said the only reason they were in the guard was to get college paid for free and the bonus was getting paid extra in the meantime.
Also, schools yank scholarships all the time. When I was in college, I saw several frat guys lose their academic scholarships and saw three athletes have theirs yanked as well.
This. People just pull random sticker prices from Ivies/Stanford/MIT type of schools, without realizing that almost no one attending those schools pays that much. They have amazing need-based financial aid programs. “I got accepted into Stanford/MIT/Ivies, but cannot afford to attend” isn’t really a thing.
Unless your family is extremely wealthy, you can only realistically spend that much by either going to a small expensive private school (aka one that doesn’t have Ivies-tier financial aid) or to a hyped public school out of state (e.g., UCs as a non-CA resident). Which is a mostly silly idea, but even then, you wont really be hitting $80k/year.
I remember that back in 2013, UCLA was roughly $32k/yr for an out-of-state student. Of course I ended up not going to UCLA and went to GT instead as an in-state student. In-state sticker price of tuition was roughly $10k/yr, but every single in-state student also had access to HOPE/Zell Miller scholarship based on GPA (3.0+ covers 90% of the tuition, 3.3+ covers 100% of the tuition). And that’s on top of federal financial aid. Even without the scholarships, $10k/year is not terrible, and is a far cry from $80k/yr. Out of state costs were roughly $22k/yr, and international costs were around $30k/yr.
I am really curious to see those $80k/yr schools that don’t offer Ivies-tier need-based financial aid. I would bet that the number of those schools in the US can be counted using just two hands at most. I, personally, am yet to find a single school like that. So if someone could list at least a few that are of any noteworthiness, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Where are people going to college where its 80K a year? I went to a neighboring four year state college where I got reciprocity and graduated with only 15K in debt which I was able to pay off in about 4 years.
College is not "extremely expensive" if you actually do your research. A lot of my friends saved money by taking all their generals at a community college, then transferred to a four year college where they finished in two years because all they had left to get done was their program specific classes.
You also have tons of two year technical colleges where you can get a degree in tons of different areas, and there's also trade schools where day 1, you're working in your field and you apprentice under a master to become a journeyman. The trades are in crazy high demand and most of those entry level at around 60K/year and go up from there.
College is only expensive if you make it expensive. It doesn't take much to get a decent degree and find an in-demand industry where you can make good money. Tons of my friends opted for two year tech degrees. Many of them went into graphic design and networking and had a fraction of the debt I had and were all earning-40-50K/year right out of school.
There are also thousands of different scholarships and grants available to low income families and if you're a decent student, you can also get a fractional scholarship that would take care of some of it. You also have to consider the military or National Guard. I had several close friends that said the only reason they were in the guard was to get college paid for free and the bonus was getting paid extra in the meantime.
Also, schools yank scholarships all the time. When I was in college, I saw several frat guys lose their academic scholarships and saw three athletes have theirs yanked as well.
This. People just pull random sticker prices from Ivies/Stanford/MIT type of schools, without realizing that almost no one attending those schools pays that much. They have amazing need-based financial aid programs. “I got accepted into Stanford/MIT/Ivies, but cannot afford to attend” isn’t really a thing.
Unless your family is extremely wealthy, you can only realistically spend that much by either going to a small expensive private school (aka one that doesn’t have Ivies-tier financial aid) or to a hyped public school out of state (e.g., UCs as a non-CA resident). Which is a mostly silly idea, but even then, you wont really be hitting $80k/year.
I remember that back in 2013, UCLA was roughly $32k/yr for an out-of-state student. Of course I ended up not going to UCLA and went to GT instead as an in-state student. In-state sticker price of tuition was roughly $10k/yr, but every single in-state student also had access to HOPE/Zell Miller scholarship based on GPA (3.0+ covers 90% of the tuition, 3.3+ covers 100% of the tuition). And that’s on top of federal financial aid. Even without the scholarships, $10k/year is not terrible, and is a far cry from $80k/yr. Out of state costs were roughly $22k/yr, and international costs were around $30k/yr.
I am really curious to see those $80k/yr schools that don’t offer Ivies-tier need-based financial aid. I would bet that the number of those schools in the US can be counted using just two hands at most. I, personally, am yet to find a single school like that. So if someone could list at least a few that are of any noteworthiness, it would be greatly appreciated.