Actually, it wasn't. There is no perfect system. There is always some imperfect crack. To expect perfection and point and say the sky is falling when something minor happens is actually counterproductive. That attitude is likely to force the system to change and the current system's safety is a-m-a-z-i-n-g. Panic is likely to lead to forcing random change that actually could hurt the system's safety. I wish instead of constantly focusing on the rare safety issue the industry has we instead dug deep into what has enabled this industry to achieve this level of safety in the hopes we could apply it to the large number of vastly less successful industries out there. Cars, trains, industrial workplaces, etc etc. All of these could possibly benefit from the aviation industry if we could understand the factors that drove it to this level of safety.
Letting one of the most basic of errors slip through proves that the currently existing system has failed. There is no way around it. The current safety standards are the result of past behavior and will not continue with the current system.
Making sure bolts are installed is the most basic of basic things. If that can fail, many, many far more complex and involved problems are also failing. If you understand how safety in aviation works you would understand that this slipping through can only happen if many, many more things are also slipping through. Things which are far harder to inspect and to verify to assure flight safety.
The article is clear and I agree with it, and so do the stats. Airline safety is in the ridiculously safe category. The point of the article, and stats that are easily looked up, is that there have been 0 deaths this year on major airlines but despite that a door blew out and people are loosing their minds, for months. Put this energy into figuring out how this industry has been so incredibly successful at safety so that we can apply that to cars, medicine, industry or basically any other place because airlines are s-a-f-e and the fear and panic people are driving right now because of a door is actually likely to make things worse and not better. I love aviation. I spent a large chunk of my life dedicated to it but we can't innovate even one little bit because a door broke off meanwhile we drive by fatal accidents on the road all the time. Most people know people that have died in a car accident and many have even been in near fatal accidents but there is no panic, fear or months long panic in national media over the 30k+ deaths on the road every year. I'm not blithe. I am actually mad. I -love- flying but we are devastating the industry with panic to the great loss of everyone. Go ahead, keep hyping the fear and drive people from the skies and onto the roads so that they can actually be in danger.
The discussion above was about what makes you blithe and fact-free, which I implicitly agreed with the other commenter was the case, and so, yes, the age of your account is one way how people sanity-check for trolls and shills, which is relevant to having a "discussion" at all.
Yes. Boeing is great. Boeing is a-m-a-z-i-n-g. They prioritize quality and safety above profit. No issues at Boeing management, whatsoever. Ignore the whistleblowers. Bunch of liars.
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Actually, it wasn't. There is no perfect system. There is always some imperfect crack. To expect perfection and point and say the sky is falling when something minor happens is actually counterproductive. That attitude is likely to force the system to change and the current system's safety is a-m-a-z-i-n-g. Panic is likely to lead to forcing random change that actually could hurt the system's safety. I wish instead of constantly focusing on the rare safety issue the industry has we instead dug deep into what has enabled this industry to achieve this level of safety in the hopes we could apply it to the large number of vastly less successful industries out there. Cars, trains, industrial workplaces, etc etc. All of these could possibly benefit from the aviation industry if we could understand the factors that drove it to this level of safety.
Letting one of the most basic of errors slip through proves that the currently existing system has failed. There is no way around it. The current safety standards are the result of past behavior and will not continue with the current system.
Making sure bolts are installed is the most basic of basic things. If that can fail, many, many far more complex and involved problems are also failing. If you understand how safety in aviation works you would understand that this slipping through can only happen if many, many more things are also slipping through. Things which are far harder to inspect and to verify to assure flight safety.
What makes you so blithe? Expertise in the airline industry? You’re saying nothing factual and coming across as a contrarian.
The article is clear and I agree with it, and so do the stats. Airline safety is in the ridiculously safe category. The point of the article, and stats that are easily looked up, is that there have been 0 deaths this year on major airlines but despite that a door blew out and people are loosing their minds, for months. Put this energy into figuring out how this industry has been so incredibly successful at safety so that we can apply that to cars, medicine, industry or basically any other place because airlines are s-a-f-e and the fear and panic people are driving right now because of a door is actually likely to make things worse and not better. I love aviation. I spent a large chunk of my life dedicated to it but we can't innovate even one little bit because a door broke off meanwhile we drive by fatal accidents on the road all the time. Most people know people that have died in a car accident and many have even been in near fatal accidents but there is no panic, fear or months long panic in national media over the 30k+ deaths on the road every year. I'm not blithe. I am actually mad. I -love- flying but we are devastating the industry with panic to the great loss of everyone. Go ahead, keep hyping the fear and drive people from the skies and onto the roads so that they can actually be in danger.
They're a 3 month old account.
And yours is 13 years old? So? Is there a discussion here relevant to aviation somewhere?
The discussion above was about what makes you blithe and fact-free, which I implicitly agreed with the other commenter was the case, and so, yes, the age of your account is one way how people sanity-check for trolls and shills, which is relevant to having a "discussion" at all.
Yes. Boeing is great. Boeing is a-m-a-z-i-n-g. They prioritize quality and safety above profit. No issues at Boeing management, whatsoever. Ignore the whistleblowers. Bunch of liars.