same, one I was part of a team that did 1.5 hr stand-up with devs & QA and some external folks everyday in morning. there was no discipline there, people will talk about status, issues they are having then branch out into possible solutions while everybody else is yawning on side. Problem is if you have this its likely a byproduct of some other dysfunction in team like the manager or leads not being technical and unable to communicate across teams.