I was told by an Indian work colleague that it's a matter of culture and stems from something along the analogy he gave of 'bare minimum', 'if I can get away with it'.
It probably explains why I've seen offshore teams verbally abused and oppressively micro-managed by their managers, to extents that treatment would be illegal in the West.
I'd feel anxious if any life critical sector or even piece of software was developed from any of the large Indian consultancies I've had the displeasure of working with. As this attitude manifests itself almost every time sometime is delivered.
There's a shrew of threads on HN about poor, contaminated pharmaceuticals from India e.g. eye drops. The UK governments website on drug recalls have a large number of Indian manufactured products.
I say this all the time: the large Indian consultancies pay their new grads ~$4500 YEARLY. I know plenty of people who used to work there. They were all treated like livestock. Please do not expect them to care about quality when treated like shit and paid like shit. The good engineers in India work for much much higher wages and they do produce world class work.
I have 3 South Asians in my team and completely agree with you about class work or talent. It's taken the best part of 5 years to curate the best from offshore to eventually offering onshore jobs.
We now all complain about the same issues; lack of care, pride of work or worksmanship.
They now manage offshore and treat them with alot more humanity. Sometimes will resort to 'ill speech' because they say 'it's how things work there as a boss otherwise they climb ontop of your head' which always makes me laugh when they say it.
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I was told by an Indian work colleague that it's a matter of culture and stems from something along the analogy he gave of 'bare minimum', 'if I can get away with it'.
It probably explains why I've seen offshore teams verbally abused and oppressively micro-managed by their managers, to extents that treatment would be illegal in the West.
I'd feel anxious if any life critical sector or even piece of software was developed from any of the large Indian consultancies I've had the displeasure of working with. As this attitude manifests itself almost every time sometime is delivered.
There's a shrew of threads on HN about poor, contaminated pharmaceuticals from India e.g. eye drops. The UK governments website on drug recalls have a large number of Indian manufactured products.
I say this all the time: the large Indian consultancies pay their new grads ~$4500 YEARLY. I know plenty of people who used to work there. They were all treated like livestock. Please do not expect them to care about quality when treated like shit and paid like shit. The good engineers in India work for much much higher wages and they do produce world class work.
I have 3 South Asians in my team and completely agree with you about class work or talent. It's taken the best part of 5 years to curate the best from offshore to eventually offering onshore jobs.
We now all complain about the same issues; lack of care, pride of work or worksmanship.
They now manage offshore and treat them with alot more humanity. Sometimes will resort to 'ill speech' because they say 'it's how things work there as a boss otherwise they climb ontop of your head' which always makes me laugh when they say it.