Why would you care about trying to forcibly increase ranking on HN of an otherwise unremarkable post if you aren't doing SEO or advertising your business, neither of which is welcome here?
You are free to judge my business model (which, if you are referring to content generation, YC is heavily invested in), but nothing about the content I've shared is spam.
Also, if you dig deeper into what AIMD does, AIMD was built to combat spam. The one-pager is a good starting point.
Generally, the full AI generation of articles with minimal human intervention that your startup promotes is considered spam, even if it's more "honest" spam. Your one-pager has the line "Finally, AIMD takes over the writing process, crafting the article for you."
That alone may not affect people on HN upvoting an article on vector similarity but it could get it flagged if people started looking deeper.
If that's the criteria, then fair, but AIMD produces articles that are virtually indistinguishable from what an average copywriter would compose if you hired them.
AIMD is very different from your typical article generators (like https://writesonic.com/, which good God I don't know why anyone would use, but they are doing good, so good for them) that is just spinning out LLM-written content. AIMD orchestrates a multi-step process of topic discovery, source research, content summary, fact validation, hypothesis generation, outline planning, and only then writing. Content generation is a tiny surface area of AIMD, for which I am the least excited. It is really meant to generate a data-rich starting point for writing a high-quality article, rather than produce something that's ready to post. That is also reflected in the product: the content score is based (among other variables) on the % of insights added by the editor VS generated.
If that's the criteria, then fair, but AIMD produces articles that are virtually indistinguishable from what an average copywriter would compose if you hired them.
That may well be true, but my take would be that whether something qualifies as "SEO Spam" or not depends largely on the intent of the content. If it's intended to provide useful information that will benefit the reader first and foremost, and has a side effect of promoting your business, then that's good. But I'd consider content intended primarily to function as part of a "content marketing" strategy or SEO campaign to be "SEO spam" no matter how well written it is, and regardless of whether it's written by a human or an AI.
I mean to cast no judgment on your business (hell, I could see giving it a try at some point, truth be told) but just be aware that a LOT of people are going to have the "you're just pitching SEO spam" reaction seen above. Whether that matters to you or not, is up to you of course.
I appreciate this conversation. It gives me ideas how to think about the future copy of the landing page. Truth be said, that landing page and most of the blog posts were made haphazardly in a single afternoon. Heck, many people think that AIMD is only used for generating copy for comics... It is well overdue for a refresh based on all the learnings.
The secret sauce behind "anti-AI detection" is 'not writing overly generic, unreferenced content'. Not a single line in the code base tries to evade AI detection; it is just the side-effect of how the product works.
At the end of the day, my job is to sell to the ICP that I am targeting, and I know that their concern (based on user interviews) is that content will be detected as AI detected. I need to get them into the product first before I can educate them.
Not a single line in the code base tries to evade AI detection; it is just the side-effect of how the product works.
I don't believe this either.
Note that AIMD already implements techniques to evade AI detection. The techniques used in this demonstration are for illustrative purposes only. The actual techniques used by AIMD are proprietary.
here is the same article scrambled using AIMD anti-AI detection techniques
Anti-AI detection is only available to paid users of AIMD
This sounds to me like you specifically made something to avoid detection
Well, I am not here to win Internet arguments. Try the product to form an opinion, if you feel strongly to discredit what I am saying.
As mentioned before, sales gen (which is the blog post you shared) and product are not going to match 1:1. You have to reach the audience at the points that you know they research and try to solve. That's not going to be a surprise to anyone who built and scaled products.
Just migrated to Google Cloud last night. Still ironing out some details. Will check what broke there.
RE terrible sources, the sources are chosen based on what Google identifies to be credible sources. I am aware that some of the sources Google chooses as the source of truth are not great though. I've not found a good way to filter them out.
Out of curiosity. Which source in particular stood out as low-quality?
I just realized – that you are looking at the draft, not the edited version.
The entire article is edited after the initial draft is written out.
Good feedback. Didn't think that many people will look at this first paragraph is indicative of the final result. Will think how to reflect that in the UI.
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You're spamming SEO junk, please don't.
In what way on Earth is the post that I am referring to an SEO junk?
Why would you care about trying to forcibly increase ranking on HN of an otherwise unremarkable post if you aren't doing SEO or advertising your business, neither of which is welcome here?
Your entire business looks to me like SEO spam, specifically about generating it
You are free to judge my business model (which, if you are referring to content generation, YC is heavily invested in), but nothing about the content I've shared is spam.
Also, if you dig deeper into what AIMD does, AIMD was built to combat spam. The one-pager is a good starting point.
Generally, the full AI generation of articles with minimal human intervention that your startup promotes is considered spam, even if it's more "honest" spam. Your one-pager has the line "Finally, AIMD takes over the writing process, crafting the article for you."
That alone may not affect people on HN upvoting an article on vector similarity but it could get it flagged if people started looking deeper.
If that's the criteria, then fair, but AIMD produces articles that are virtually indistinguishable from what an average copywriter would compose if you hired them.
AIMD is very different from your typical article generators (like https://writesonic.com/, which good God I don't know why anyone would use, but they are doing good, so good for them) that is just spinning out LLM-written content. AIMD orchestrates a multi-step process of topic discovery, source research, content summary, fact validation, hypothesis generation, outline planning, and only then writing. Content generation is a tiny surface area of AIMD, for which I am the least excited. It is really meant to generate a data-rich starting point for writing a high-quality article, rather than produce something that's ready to post. That is also reflected in the product: the content score is based (among other variables) on the % of insights added by the editor VS generated.
If that's the criteria, then fair, but AIMD produces articles that are virtually indistinguishable from what an average copywriter would compose if you hired them.
That may well be true, but my take would be that whether something qualifies as "SEO Spam" or not depends largely on the intent of the content. If it's intended to provide useful information that will benefit the reader first and foremost, and has a side effect of promoting your business, then that's good. But I'd consider content intended primarily to function as part of a "content marketing" strategy or SEO campaign to be "SEO spam" no matter how well written it is, and regardless of whether it's written by a human or an AI.
I mean to cast no judgment on your business (hell, I could see giving it a try at some point, truth be told) but just be aware that a LOT of people are going to have the "you're just pitching SEO spam" reaction seen above. Whether that matters to you or not, is up to you of course.
I appreciate this conversation. It gives me ideas how to think about the future copy of the landing page. Truth be said, that landing page and most of the blog posts were made haphazardly in a single afternoon. Heck, many people think that AIMD is only used for generating copy for comics... It is well overdue for a refresh based on all the learnings.
I don't believe that.
Especially considering
The secret sauce behind "anti-AI detection" is 'not writing overly generic, unreferenced content'. Not a single line in the code base tries to evade AI detection; it is just the side-effect of how the product works.
At the end of the day, my job is to sell to the ICP that I am targeting, and I know that their concern (based on user interviews) is that content will be detected as AI detected. I need to get them into the product first before I can educate them.
I don't believe this either.
This sounds to me like you specifically made something to avoid detection
https://aimd.app/blog/2023-12-14-tricking-ai-generated-conte...
Well, I am not here to win Internet arguments. Try the product to form an opinion, if you feel strongly to discredit what I am saying.
As mentioned before, sales gen (which is the blog post you shared) and product are not going to match 1:1. You have to reach the audience at the points that you know they research and try to solve. That's not going to be a surprise to anyone who built and scaled products.
I have, it got stuck, and the little it did generate used some pretty terrible sources
Like:
- An announcement about a seminar relating to the subject
- A poorly written blog post by some company (numerous spelling mistakes, poor grammar and factual errors)
- A link to a store page for buying a book relating to the subject (a book that hasn't even been published yet)
Just migrated to Google Cloud last night. Still ironing out some details. Will check what broke there.
RE terrible sources, the sources are chosen based on what Google identifies to be credible sources. I am aware that some of the sources Google chooses as the source of truth are not great though. I've not found a good way to filter them out.
Out of curiosity. Which source in particular stood out as low-quality?
I just realized – that you are looking at the draft, not the edited version.
The entire article is edited after the initial draft is written out.
Good feedback. Didn't think that many people will look at this first paragraph is indicative of the final result. Will think how to reflect that in the UI.
Product has been updated to reflect this.