Comment on Warning from OpenAI leaders helped trigger Sam Altman's ousterComments−caesil2yI'm so skeptical of the "he mischaracterized others' views on Helen Toner" narrative, devoid of details.There are lots of decisions where consensus has to be forged by getting skeptical people onboard. If I had to guess, it probably went something like:---SAM: Hey, I think we should remove Helen Toner.EMPLOYEE A: Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree.SAM: Well, [reasons x, y, and z], and I'm talking to [employee b] to see if they agree.EMPLOYEE A: Well, if [reasons x, y, and z] are true, and [employee b] wants to fire her, then I guess I could be convinced.[later]SAM: Hey [employee b], I think we should remove Helen Toner. I talked to [employee a] and they said they would be open to it.−baking2yThere were six board members. Sam and Helen were two of them. The conversations were with the other four board members. So it would be something like this:Sam to A: We should get rid of Helen. B, C, and D agree with me.Rinse and repeat. Typical Mean Girls stuff.−caesil2yThat was the original allegation, yes, but the above article makes that allegation specifically for employees as well.
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I'm so skeptical of the "he mischaracterized others' views on Helen Toner" narrative, devoid of details.
There are lots of decisions where consensus has to be forged by getting skeptical people onboard. If I had to guess, it probably went something like:
---
SAM: Hey, I think we should remove Helen Toner.
EMPLOYEE A: Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree.
SAM: Well, [reasons x, y, and z], and I'm talking to [employee b] to see if they agree.
EMPLOYEE A: Well, if [reasons x, y, and z] are true, and [employee b] wants to fire her, then I guess I could be convinced.
[later]
SAM: Hey [employee b], I think we should remove Helen Toner. I talked to [employee a] and they said they would be open to it.
There were six board members. Sam and Helen were two of them. The conversations were with the other four board members. So it would be something like this:
Sam to A: We should get rid of Helen. B, C, and D agree with me.
Rinse and repeat. Typical Mean Girls stuff.
That was the original allegation, yes, but the above article makes that allegation specifically for employees as well.