It's been a long time since I checked out Pivotal so I don't feel that confident in giving too much of an opinion.
However my main gripe with Pivotal was always two things: 1) Strict adherence to a Scrum methodology (forcing me to use a certain set of columns, etc) and 2) The UI. It frankly drove me nuts. The small text fields, small text areas and lack of wiki-style formatting. Anything longer than a few words was impossible to grok.
We flirted with trying it out about the time we adopted Trello but enough people had bad past experiences, like mine, that we never gave it a try.
Yeah I hear you. We use Pivotal for a few projects and my top two complaints are the same as yours, although they've made some improvements in the last few months. OTOH there are things that bother me about the Trello UI as well.
From the description it doesn't look like they're running in sprints, but deploying as stories get completed, so cycle time would be the thing they would track. No idea if Trello can do this out of the box. They also explicitly said that they're not doing project estimates - so they wouldn't need to track velocity in any case.
If it were me I might be interested in visualising the flow somewhere - more of a tool to help spot problems as to make estimates any more accurate - but I'm a fan of just doing that with a whiteboard as part of running the project.
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Very cool!
I assume you've tried Pivotal Tracker at some point too? I'd be interested to know what you like/dislike about your new workflow compared to Pivotal.
It's been a long time since I checked out Pivotal so I don't feel that confident in giving too much of an opinion.
However my main gripe with Pivotal was always two things: 1) Strict adherence to a Scrum methodology (forcing me to use a certain set of columns, etc) and 2) The UI. It frankly drove me nuts. The small text fields, small text areas and lack of wiki-style formatting. Anything longer than a few words was impossible to grok.
We flirted with trying it out about the time we adopted Trello but enough people had bad past experiences, like mine, that we never gave it a try.
Yeah I hear you. We use Pivotal for a few projects and my top two complaints are the same as yours, although they've made some improvements in the last few months. OTOH there are things that bother me about the Trello UI as well.
Thanks for replying!
I'm curious about their thoughts on Pivotal as well.
In addition, how do you track velocity?
In addition, how do you track velocity?
From the description it doesn't look like they're running in sprints, but deploying as stories get completed, so cycle time would be the thing they would track. No idea if Trello can do this out of the box. They also explicitly said that they're not doing project estimates - so they wouldn't need to track velocity in any case.
If it were me I might be interested in visualising the flow somewhere - more of a tool to help spot problems as to make estimates any more accurate - but I'm a fan of just doing that with a whiteboard as part of running the project.