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Comment on Ask HN: Has meetup.org been replaced by anything?

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First things first: it's Meetup dot com. It's a commercial product owned by a commercial entity. It's not a community service.

Second, nothing replaced it, at least not in the Bay Area for tech meetups. It had a few shaky years under erratic WeWork ownership, and then COVID dealt it a killing blow.

I really think people used to go to Meetup events to catch up with acquaintances and eat the free pizza. They were like low-pressure parties where you could talk to strangers about something you cared about. Most Meetup groups that went to Zoom had huge drops in attendance, because being on a call with strangers is awkward, puts everyone on the spot, and is generally not fun at all.

I think IRL tech meetups can still come back, but I think a lot fewer companies are willing to host. I've spoken to several organizers of small tech enthusiast groups that I care about; they absolutely hate the online format and are desperately searching for IRL options. I go to an IRL AI/ML event that moves around startup offices in SF; they have overwhelming interest and have to turn away 2/3 of the people that sign up, because they just don't have the capacity.

What's left on Meetup:

- dead groups that stopped scheduling events years ago

- groups that are managed by tech companies (in spaces like Web3) that organize events that sound general-interest, but are actually promoting their own services and solutions, and usually fold after 1-2 events

- non-sponsored tech enthusiast groups that run events on Zoom and get like 3-4 attendees per event

My takeaway is that online-only is absolute poison for organizing events where people can meet each other, and IRL is heavily blocked on companies willing to host events and feed people free pizza. All the IRL stuff I've been to this year has been attended and overattended, but there just aren't as many events compared to 5 years ago.

I've been an organizer both pre- and post-pandemic.

I can say that my pre-pandemic programming Meetup group has been tricky to re-launch. We did decently in virtual Restream sessions during the pandemic, about 15-20 attendees and many more watching the videos. Afterwards, it's much tougher to find free venues. I don't have recent contacts with many speakers. Most sponsors aren't recruiting and aren't looking to spend money on free pizza. Some original members aren't getting emails and notifications because they stopped them during the pandemic.

However, my tech happy hour meetup is more popular than ever. We relaunched it after the pandemic and it's been hopping ever since. By starting over with a new group and new name, we were boosted by a New Group Announcement that put our group in front of lots of new Meetup members. Being one of the active Meetup events in our area, we get higher attendance than pre-pandemic. Also, it's a joy to host these events as I have almost no work putting an event together-- no venue, speaker, or sponsor discussions.

It's a tale of two event formats-- one that used to work well and another that still does.

My take on online events is that people attended during the pandemic partly to be social. However, Zoom creates a problem-- as the number of attendees rises there's a significant burden to speak and to take up space in the conversation. I used Restream to allow conversations in chat and to highlight various comments and discussions. I had great hope when trying gather.town, but it didn't work well because most came to watch the speaker and left without learning how to mingle and socialize in a virtual environment that should have empowered smaller, organic conversations.

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