Nigeria seems to do better in spite of those fertility rates you speak of.
And yeah, how being the second or third exporter is not being a strategic supplier when the rest of the exports basically depend on Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan?
If you have to switch up your whole supply-chain, don't you think that the price will be steep?
As I've said, Niger still has less than half the population of France on twice the territory. They should have been out-of-poverty a long time ago if the fertility rates were that high.
And the fact that wars are due to multi ethnicity is a masquerade. African empires of yesteryear have always been multi-ethnic. They were stable until colonization (Middle-East incursions which brought slavery and then Europeans who partaked in and expanded)
So no, I don't believe that in countries where there are so many inter-ethnic marriages, multiplicity of ethnicities are a valid reason to scaremonger people with the possibility of wars.
It's not the rank that counts, but the overall share. Niger's uranium ore can easily be replaced with Australian or Canadian ore in the next years. The price of ore in the final electricity cost is meaningless.
Niger is the top recipient of international aid in the region, worth 1.8bn$ last year. French taxpayers contributed 131M$. Most of the population still live under the poverty line (2.15$ a day).
Where will Niger get the capital to double its power grid in the next 20 years? Territory size is meaningless, by your standard Hong Kong should be poorer than Russia given the extreme density differences. Most of Niger land is aride and can't be cultivated anyway, so food needs to be imported. Parabolic population growth will only make things worse.
Regarding multi-ethnic empires, can you give me a source? I believe that it's mainly tribal oppression against enslaved dominated ethnicities. Similar to Pygmee slaves still owned by Bantu people.
Improving the region would mean understanding what's wrong instead of blaming the white men for all of the trouble. Not sure we're on the good path.
I wasn't talking about density really but more expounding on the fact that given the rates, the GDP by capita should have been much, much higher back then and even today.
Regarding multi-ethnic history, one can easily find literature on the great African Empires such as Kanem-Bornu, Ouaddaï or Bagirmi for instance.
No one is blaming white men, don't make it about skin color. One can blame foreign governments when they are at fault. People really can't seem to be able to accept the faults of their leadership somehow but they are also the firsts to criticize the migratory politics. At some point, one should accept that things are not well coordinated all over.
Re. Capital to double its power grid, should have invested in infrastructure from the get-go hence the comparison to UAE countries which did the right thing. Dubai was literally the middle of the desert so I don't think that it was/is an impossible feat.
Then again, colonialism has had an impact even after these countries were officially independent, as they didn't have full-control regarding what to do with the oil discovered in the 70s for instance.
Nigeria seems to do better in spite of those fertility rates you speak of.
Nigerian here; no we're not. Our economy is dismal and barely growing, yet the population is exploding. Poor (and I mean dirt-poor) people account for the majority of this population explosion, giving birth to offspring that'll face a lifetime of suffering.
I agree with the person you're replying to. African countries cause their own problems because they give birth to more people than their economic growth can cater to.
Here's a dire stat; Nigeria is currently about 224 million, and 63% are classified as "multidimensionally poor" [1]. Yet, we're expected to surpass China in population at year 2,100 [2].
How on earth do we expect those hundreds of millions more people to survive when we can't even take care of the ones we have? Answer is no one has a plan, but poorer people keep giving birth like flies and most of their offspring won't escape poverty. This is what sheer lack of education causes, coupled with excessive corruption that hinders economic growth.
I'm not saying that it's all rosy but the economy is assuredly better than on the other side of the borders. Just have to look at the number of foreign companies investing, having a presence there.
Incomparable.
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Nigeria seems to do better in spite of those fertility rates you speak of.
And yeah, how being the second or third exporter is not being a strategic supplier when the rest of the exports basically depend on Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan?
If you have to switch up your whole supply-chain, don't you think that the price will be steep?
As I've said, Niger still has less than half the population of France on twice the territory. They should have been out-of-poverty a long time ago if the fertility rates were that high.
And the fact that wars are due to multi ethnicity is a masquerade. African empires of yesteryear have always been multi-ethnic. They were stable until colonization (Middle-East incursions which brought slavery and then Europeans who partaked in and expanded) So no, I don't believe that in countries where there are so many inter-ethnic marriages, multiplicity of ethnicities are a valid reason to scaremonger people with the possibility of wars.
It's not the rank that counts, but the overall share. Niger's uranium ore can easily be replaced with Australian or Canadian ore in the next years. The price of ore in the final electricity cost is meaningless.
Niger is the top recipient of international aid in the region, worth 1.8bn$ last year. French taxpayers contributed 131M$. Most of the population still live under the poverty line (2.15$ a day).
Where will Niger get the capital to double its power grid in the next 20 years? Territory size is meaningless, by your standard Hong Kong should be poorer than Russia given the extreme density differences. Most of Niger land is aride and can't be cultivated anyway, so food needs to be imported. Parabolic population growth will only make things worse.
Regarding multi-ethnic empires, can you give me a source? I believe that it's mainly tribal oppression against enslaved dominated ethnicities. Similar to Pygmee slaves still owned by Bantu people.
Improving the region would mean understanding what's wrong instead of blaming the white men for all of the trouble. Not sure we're on the good path.
And Niger GDP is in the 20B.
I wasn't talking about density really but more expounding on the fact that given the rates, the GDP by capita should have been much, much higher back then and even today.
Regarding multi-ethnic history, one can easily find literature on the great African Empires such as Kanem-Bornu, Ouaddaï or Bagirmi for instance.
No one is blaming white men, don't make it about skin color. One can blame foreign governments when they are at fault. People really can't seem to be able to accept the faults of their leadership somehow but they are also the firsts to criticize the migratory politics. At some point, one should accept that things are not well coordinated all over.
Re. Capital to double its power grid, should have invested in infrastructure from the get-go hence the comparison to UAE countries which did the right thing. Dubai was literally the middle of the desert so I don't think that it was/is an impossible feat.
Then again, colonialism has had an impact even after these countries were officially independent, as they didn't have full-control regarding what to do with the oil discovered in the 70s for instance.
Nigerian here; no we're not. Our economy is dismal and barely growing, yet the population is exploding. Poor (and I mean dirt-poor) people account for the majority of this population explosion, giving birth to offspring that'll face a lifetime of suffering.
I agree with the person you're replying to. African countries cause their own problems because they give birth to more people than their economic growth can cater to.
Here's a dire stat; Nigeria is currently about 224 million, and 63% are classified as "multidimensionally poor" [1]. Yet, we're expected to surpass China in population at year 2,100 [2].
How on earth do we expect those hundreds of millions more people to survive when we can't even take care of the ones we have? Answer is no one has a plan, but poorer people keep giving birth like flies and most of their offspring won't escape poverty. This is what sheer lack of education causes, coupled with excessive corruption that hinders economic growth.
1 - https://nigerianstat.gov.ng/news/78#:~:text=In%20Nigeria%2C%....
2 - https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/nigeria-to-...
I'm not saying that it's all rosy but the economy is assuredly better than on the other side of the borders. Just have to look at the number of foreign companies investing, having a presence there. Incomparable.