Beyond meat and impossible burgers taste just as good if not better than ground beef burgers. Further, taste and preferences change given enough exposure.
You can call it ultra processed but so is livestock production.
There is a difference between steak and ground meat. Also: not sure what burgers you're eating but apart from the novelty factor it's not even close in favor of real meat
Also: not sure what burgers you're eating but apart from the novelty factor it's not even close in favor of real meat
My point is that some people actually prefer veggie or “fake” burgers and if tomorrow beef didn’t exist people would be more than happy with what currently exists today. It’s not like there is a huge gap there. Most people like the burger for the additions anyway.
Sure that's true livestock are processed as well, but one of the benefits of going vegan is healthier eating. You can't even call impossible burgers healthier.
As far as taste, I'll admit that meat burgers are much more variable whereas impossible's are just one product. So it's more consistent compared to all the bad options you have for meat burgers.
But compared to a fresh unfrozen well-grilled burger there's absolutely no comparison. You are simply not making a serious argument to say impossible's taste better than that, to the point that I think you could be trolling.
At best you can say they aren't terrible, but again they're more expensive.
As far as beyond's go, they're even worse than the worst frozen burgers I can find.
but one of the benefits of going vegan is healthier eating
Veganism is about not using animal products. It says nothing about the health of the diet. That some people incidentally eat healthier through becoming vegan says nothing about veganism as a whole.
But compared to a fresh unfrozen well-grilled burger there's absolutely no comparison. You are simply not making a serious argument to say impossible's taste better than that, to the point that I think you could be trolling.
I agree, which is why I mention that lab grown meat (that tastes identical to naturally raised meat because, well, it's all the same cells in the end) is the answer over trying to get everyone to change their behavior.
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Beyond meat and impossible burgers taste just as good if not better than ground beef burgers. Further, taste and preferences change given enough exposure.
You can call it ultra processed but so is livestock production.
There is a difference between steak and ground meat. Also: not sure what burgers you're eating but apart from the novelty factor it's not even close in favor of real meat
My point is that some people actually prefer veggie or “fake” burgers and if tomorrow beef didn’t exist people would be more than happy with what currently exists today. It’s not like there is a huge gap there. Most people like the burger for the additions anyway.
I think there is a flaw in this way if thinking.
Some people != all people
You are also assuming that most people like the burger for the addition (which may be true, but it's hard to know this for sure)
If tomorrow beef didn't exist the burgers would disappear as a regularly consummed food.
Sure that's true livestock are processed as well, but one of the benefits of going vegan is healthier eating. You can't even call impossible burgers healthier.
As far as taste, I'll admit that meat burgers are much more variable whereas impossible's are just one product. So it's more consistent compared to all the bad options you have for meat burgers.
But compared to a fresh unfrozen well-grilled burger there's absolutely no comparison. You are simply not making a serious argument to say impossible's taste better than that, to the point that I think you could be trolling.
At best you can say they aren't terrible, but again they're more expensive.
As far as beyond's go, they're even worse than the worst frozen burgers I can find.
Veganism is about not using animal products. It says nothing about the health of the diet. That some people incidentally eat healthier through becoming vegan says nothing about veganism as a whole.
I agree, which is why I mention that lab grown meat (that tastes identical to naturally raised meat because, well, it's all the same cells in the end) is the answer over trying to get everyone to change their behavior.
When I google "why be vegan" all the top 5 results are "because of health". So objectively, you are wrong.
It sounds like you have an idealistic view of what it means to be vegan that flies in the face of reality.