He says he has a T14s gen 3 and it is not of great build quality. I have a P14s gen 3 from work (which I presume the only difference is the GPU, but I never looked nor care to) and think the build quality is fantastic. I know though that Lenovo's output is variable, but the one I have, which is the newest TP I had in years, is solid for what I need.
At least in my view with what I have and reading this, going with a framework feels like a little bit of a shot-in-the-dark, trusting that Framework will deliver on expectedly high build quality like TPs in the past. (better to quote "high build quality" -- I have older TPs with cracking plastic. I had one X220's plastic parts basically crumble apart when I tried to fix the adapter plug. At least in later high-end models, they actually do have decent outer-bodies.) I know that Framework has worked out many issues (like bad screen hinges), but I can't really test it at the moment since they don't offer delivery in my country of residence now.
I know the P14s also and would say it's very similar to the T14s; can you honestly hold that next to a MacBook Pro or Air and with a straight face say "the build quality is fantastic"? I really find that a stretch (imho they are not even in the same universe w/regards to build quality). Edit: to be fair, I also do not expect Framework to meet that level of build quality, even though I would love it if they (eventually) did.
I do concur that it would probably serve quite a few years, but it will most definitely be a flimsy affair.
The Framework is not a complete shot-in-the-dark, but it is definitely a benefit-of-the-doubt. I don't know (yet) what it will be like, but I'm looking forward to finding out.
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He says he has a T14s gen 3 and it is not of great build quality. I have a P14s gen 3 from work (which I presume the only difference is the GPU, but I never looked nor care to) and think the build quality is fantastic. I know though that Lenovo's output is variable, but the one I have, which is the newest TP I had in years, is solid for what I need.
At least in my view with what I have and reading this, going with a framework feels like a little bit of a shot-in-the-dark, trusting that Framework will deliver on expectedly high build quality like TPs in the past. (better to quote "high build quality" -- I have older TPs with cracking plastic. I had one X220's plastic parts basically crumble apart when I tried to fix the adapter plug. At least in later high-end models, they actually do have decent outer-bodies.) I know that Framework has worked out many issues (like bad screen hinges), but I can't really test it at the moment since they don't offer delivery in my country of residence now.
I know the P14s also and would say it's very similar to the T14s; can you honestly hold that next to a MacBook Pro or Air and with a straight face say "the build quality is fantastic"? I really find that a stretch (imho they are not even in the same universe w/regards to build quality). Edit: to be fair, I also do not expect Framework to meet that level of build quality, even though I would love it if they (eventually) did.
I do concur that it would probably serve quite a few years, but it will most definitely be a flimsy affair.
The Framework is not a complete shot-in-the-dark, but it is definitely a benefit-of-the-doubt. I don't know (yet) what it will be like, but I'm looking forward to finding out.
The P14s chassis is identical to T14, T14s is different and bit higher quality