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I’d like to know some other metrics that resulted from this service. Maybe they’re impossible to get but I’d like to know them.

How many suicides were prevented?

How many people were saved from harm by another person?

Has general mental health improved?

People involuntarily detained is a negative result, but it’s not the only important one.

How many suicides were prevented?

Given that involuntary detention increases the risk of suicide, this caused suicides rather than prevent them. Especially by using deception to involuntarily detain someone, which is known to have a devastating effect. So a negative number.

https://www.madinamerica.com/2019/06/involuntary-hospitaliza...

In general it is the amount of psychiatric help a person gets, not their problems, that predicts the odds of a successful suicide.

This even applies to children.

And yes, the corollary does apply: refusing help does reduce the risk significantly.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1023455/

Suicide prevention is about reducing the risk for others, specifically the psychiatry industry (but also school, work, government, ...). Not about reducing the risk for the victims or their families. It is about hiding the problem of suicide, not about actually preventing it or helping families. And sure, not because they don't want to help, but because they can't, due to a combination of not knowing how, not caring, and help needed (e.g. housing) not being available.

How many people were saved from harm by another person?

This is not 911, is this even an option? I suppose I don't know.

Has general mental health improved?

No it's gotten worse.

https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/news-releases/americans...

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