It's obviously an n-dimensional space. I know a lot of the people that Sasha knows, so I can guess some of the people he was talking about here, and it's more like Jared Leto and his handful of weird groupies who are in a deeply unhealthy social and intellectual dynamic. So not really suicide cults, but uncomfortably close, not successful or mainstream enough to be Jobs, not really growth oriented or external facing enough to be Scientology. But a dubious social bubble around certain personality types.