What interests me in a story, art, poem, whatever, is that it's a human communication.
I guess we are different in this case, as I primarily read something for its content, rather than its author (although the author is often a good proxy for the quality of the content). A world where I can instantly generate whatever content I want is a utopia for me, rather than a dystopia.
I think you are massively over-estimating the reaches of your imagination. The whole point of good art is to expose us to things we didn't conceive of. If your world and your reality is a horse-drawn buggy, no amount of AI prompting is going to turn that into a car.
I disagree, at a certain point the AI will be able to create new things for me. To think only humans have some innate fundamental notion of creativity is foolish, in my opinion. We're just biological machines, if you follow the physicalist school of thought.
I don't understand why you (and others) think this is an important point, though. Let's say, for the sake of argument, not just that you're correct, but that we're not even made of flesh. That we're actual robots called "humans".
I don't see how that changes anything. I'd still prefer "human" communication over communication from a different machine pretending to be "human".
Why? Because what others of my species/model feels and thinks has a unique importance and meaning to me, and having fake versions of that communication around reduces my connection to others of my species/model and devalues the society of them that I am a part of.
That's good for you, I never claimed otherwise, that one shouldn't have an affinity for their own species. My claim was merely that nothing about creativity is innately and only a human property.
That very much depends on the level of detail required in the description right?
And we have to do this to some degree to simply navigate the world of content. I already filter for action films or documentaries depending on my mood.
Sure, a world where I have to already know the entire script for a film to have it appear is (while technically astonishing) not great for me individually, one where I can say I want a new Poirot and get it is incredible.
I doubt human created art will ever go away, if only for the mere fact that there are people who share your view who want human made art. People still buy artisan, handcrafted products.
Human-made art becoming so rare that it's "artisan, hand-crafted" is such art not really existing, in my view. It would mean that 99% of all the "art" I see around me is effectively alien and meaningless. It would be very hard to actually take part in such a society.
I would argue 99% of the art you already see is effectively alien and meaningless, as it's all mass-produced and commercial, designed by committees, and its only purpose is to brand or advertise a product. Almost no mainstream "art" communicates anything honest or sincere, it's all soulless mind-control and emotional manipulation by the corporate capitalist machine. That there are humans involved doesn't make it meaningful, after all, there will be people writing prompts for AI as well.
But at least a lot of those people will be trying to express something even if all AI can give them is an approximation of what they would make if they had the talent.
I admit that I was excluding commercial art here, but you're right (although even commercial art is human communication).
But that just makes the issue more important. I don't want to lose what little meaningful art is actually left. Art serves a critically important social function, and if that art is no longer from people, that function is no longer served.
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I guess we are different in this case, as I primarily read something for its content, rather than its author (although the author is often a good proxy for the quality of the content). A world where I can instantly generate whatever content I want is a utopia for me, rather than a dystopia.
I think you are massively over-estimating the reaches of your imagination. The whole point of good art is to expose us to things we didn't conceive of. If your world and your reality is a horse-drawn buggy, no amount of AI prompting is going to turn that into a car.
I disagree, at a certain point the AI will be able to create new things for me. To think only humans have some innate fundamental notion of creativity is foolish, in my opinion. We're just biological machines, if you follow the physicalist school of thought.
I don't understand why you (and others) think this is an important point, though. Let's say, for the sake of argument, not just that you're correct, but that we're not even made of flesh. That we're actual robots called "humans".
I don't see how that changes anything. I'd still prefer "human" communication over communication from a different machine pretending to be "human".
Why? Because what others of my species/model feels and thinks has a unique importance and meaning to me, and having fake versions of that communication around reduces my connection to others of my species/model and devalues the society of them that I am a part of.
That's good for you, I never claimed otherwise, that one shouldn't have an affinity for their own species. My claim was merely that nothing about creativity is innately and only a human property.
Humans are the ones who created the very AI that you're talking about. The AI is not an act of nature but something made real by human creativity.
The claim is not "humans don't have creativity," the claim is that "only humans having creativity (or the potential for creativity) is false."
Is a world where you already know what the content is, and thus there won't be any point in taking it in.
That very much depends on the level of detail required in the description right?
And we have to do this to some degree to simply navigate the world of content. I already filter for action films or documentaries depending on my mood.
Sure, a world where I have to already know the entire script for a film to have it appear is (while technically astonishing) not great for me individually, one where I can say I want a new Poirot and get it is incredible.
And I don't want to deny you that. My fear is that your preference will be the only choice. One person's heaven can indeed be another person's hell.
I doubt human created art will ever go away, if only for the mere fact that there are people who share your view who want human made art. People still buy artisan, handcrafted products.
Human-made art becoming so rare that it's "artisan, hand-crafted" is such art not really existing, in my view. It would mean that 99% of all the "art" I see around me is effectively alien and meaningless. It would be very hard to actually take part in such a society.
I would argue 99% of the art you already see is effectively alien and meaningless, as it's all mass-produced and commercial, designed by committees, and its only purpose is to brand or advertise a product. Almost no mainstream "art" communicates anything honest or sincere, it's all soulless mind-control and emotional manipulation by the corporate capitalist machine. That there are humans involved doesn't make it meaningful, after all, there will be people writing prompts for AI as well.
But at least a lot of those people will be trying to express something even if all AI can give them is an approximation of what they would make if they had the talent.
I admit that I was excluding commercial art here, but you're right (although even commercial art is human communication).
But that just makes the issue more important. I don't want to lose what little meaningful art is actually left. Art serves a critically important social function, and if that art is no longer from people, that function is no longer served.