The worst part is the stigma surrounding misfires, with some people even losing their jobs. Danish military is also using this gun in the no-safety version, and have had several misfires. The blame always goes on the users, never the gun.
There is no discharge of a round with a misfire, at least US terminology, misfiring is synonymous with failure to fire, it happens when the hammer / firing pin is released but the primer is not ignited. There is a stigma around unintentional discharges for a good reason, because it is almost always a _negligent_ discharge and not an _accidental_ discharge, if someone NDs I do not want them around me and a firearm.
Nah. There are lots of knowledgeable and precise people who speak of things with the amount of specificity required to communicate the important details.
Accurate word use is correct. Inaccurate word use is false. People care about true and false statements. Please only refer to your own beliefs, as your statment is patently false.
If I'm not mistaking some Sig P320 models come without a safety switch. However, one could, you know, not keep a round in the chamber, especially if there is no safety switch... So yeah, the users does carry some of the blame.
In general, handguns with active safety levers are considered less-safe than firearms without active safeties when being carried in proper holsters (ones where the trigger area is completely covered) because of the additional steps required to use the firearm when it is deployed. Having a pistol come out of the holster ready-to-fire is always going to be advantageous to having to remember to manipulate the safety lever, ensure the firearm is loaded, ensure the firearm is in-battery, etc. when the time comes.
Having a pistol come out of the holster ready-to-fire is always going to be advantageous to having to remember to manipulate the safety lever,
Just like not wearing seatbelts is safer, since you get thrown clear of the wreck?
Officers get in waaaay more physical altercations than quick-draw duels at the OK Corral. Lack of safety switches is only more advantageous to the subjects they inevitably end up grappling with, who have one less step to deal with in removing the officer's service weapon and using it against them.
Your finger is the safety. Glock pistols have never had a safety. They have no higher rate of negligent or accidental discharges than pistols with safeties. If you are qualified to carry, a round in the chamber is what saves your life. Racking the slide(improperly) to load a round is the number one cause of jams. Nervous people tend to "ride the slide" which is pulling it back, then easing it forward. It should snap forward to strip the round from the magazine and chamber it properly.
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The worst part is the stigma surrounding misfires, with some people even losing their jobs. Danish military is also using this gun in the no-safety version, and have had several misfires. The blame always goes on the users, never the gun.
There is no discharge of a round with a misfire, at least US terminology, misfiring is synonymous with failure to fire, it happens when the hammer / firing pin is released but the primer is not ignited. There is a stigma around unintentional discharges for a good reason, because it is almost always a _negligent_ discharge and not an _accidental_ discharge, if someone NDs I do not want them around me and a firearm.
This is minute gun nerd semantics people outside that world don't recognize or care about this difference.
Nah. There are lots of knowledgeable and precise people who speak of things with the amount of specificity required to communicate the important details.
Sometimes the specific technical terms for things is important. Especially in the case of a safety hazard.
Accurate word use is correct. Inaccurate word use is false. People care about true and false statements. Please only refer to your own beliefs, as your statment is patently false.
and?
You're right I meant accidental discharges. Not a native English speaker, nor a gun nerd.
No worries, I'm both, please don't hold it against me.
If I'm not mistaking some Sig P320 models come without a safety switch. However, one could, you know, not keep a round in the chamber, especially if there is no safety switch... So yeah, the users does carry some of the blame.
In general, handguns with active safety levers are considered less-safe than firearms without active safeties when being carried in proper holsters (ones where the trigger area is completely covered) because of the additional steps required to use the firearm when it is deployed. Having a pistol come out of the holster ready-to-fire is always going to be advantageous to having to remember to manipulate the safety lever, ensure the firearm is loaded, ensure the firearm is in-battery, etc. when the time comes.
Just like not wearing seatbelts is safer, since you get thrown clear of the wreck?
Officers get in waaaay more physical altercations than quick-draw duels at the OK Corral. Lack of safety switches is only more advantageous to the subjects they inevitably end up grappling with, who have one less step to deal with in removing the officer's service weapon and using it against them.
And that is why police officers use Level 3 holsters.
https://safariland.com/collections/level-3-retention-holster...
Your finger is the safety. Glock pistols have never had a safety. They have no higher rate of negligent or accidental discharges than pistols with safeties. If you are qualified to carry, a round in the chamber is what saves your life. Racking the slide(improperly) to load a round is the number one cause of jams. Nervous people tend to "ride the slide" which is pulling it back, then easing it forward. It should snap forward to strip the round from the magazine and chamber it properly.
You should probably read up on why carrying a gun without a round in the chamber is silly.
Are you expecting to get into a quick draw shootout at the walgreens or what.
Yes. Especially considering that many of the people carrying these are first responders.
https://www.kmov.com/2023/03/18/shooting-florissant-walgreen...
https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/teenager-injured-following...
https://www.wdsu.com/article/two-people-dead-in-shooting-nea...
https://www.ksdk.com/amp/article/news/crime/fatal-shooting-l...
https://www.11alive.com/amp/article/news/crime/person-of-int...
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/security-guard-walgreens-...
No but in a moment of stress you can easily have a ND/malfunction/not have enough time to aim.
Police drawing their weapons typically want to be able to fire immediately.