Just watched it - I don't see him saying anything about 5 being the last major version. In the Q&A he answers the question "should I use webpack for a new React project" with an "I'd say a biased 'yes' but it depends". He weighs the pros and cons of fixing vs rewrite, identifying that there are fundamental issues which will never be addressed in webpack.
FWIW the presenter is employed at Vercel on building Turbopack, which is presented as the "webpack successor" - so I'm quite sure either way he wouldn't agree with your take on esbuild being the future ;)
There's a big slide that says: "I don't know" about using Webpack for new projects. Coming from its main author I'd say that very closely represents to what I wrote before.
The Vite part I added it myself. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Regarding TurboPack, we'll see. So far it's not very popular outside of Next. SvelteKit uses Vite, even though Vercel is paying for two people full time working on it.
That's an "I don't know if Webpack will be a popular choice for greenfield projects in 5 years" (which is stating the obvious and should be equally true for Vite or turbopack at this point and very far from what you wrote).
Culture difference behind the misinterpretation maybe? The lack of self-inflation, exaggerated confidence and exceptionalism we might expect from Americanized presenters shouldn't be taken for insecurity or doubt ;)
I'd listen to what they say at face-value rather than trying to read the lines applying the wrong lens.
Regarding TurboPack, we'll see. So far it's not very popular outside of Next.
It's very early still, in alpha, and isn't recommended for production use outside of Next, where most of the focus on integration and tooling has been so far AFAIK.
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Got a reference or specifics on that one?
Check the section where he talks about Webpack 5 years from now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oQG5x20Uj4
Just watched it - I don't see him saying anything about 5 being the last major version. In the Q&A he answers the question "should I use webpack for a new React project" with an "I'd say a biased 'yes' but it depends". He weighs the pros and cons of fixing vs rewrite, identifying that there are fundamental issues which will never be addressed in webpack.
FWIW the presenter is employed at Vercel on building Turbopack, which is presented as the "webpack successor" - so I'm quite sure either way he wouldn't agree with your take on esbuild being the future ;)
There's a big slide that says: "I don't know" about using Webpack for new projects. Coming from its main author I'd say that very closely represents to what I wrote before.
The Vite part I added it myself. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Regarding TurboPack, we'll see. So far it's not very popular outside of Next. SvelteKit uses Vite, even though Vercel is paying for two people full time working on it.
That's an "I don't know if Webpack will be a popular choice for greenfield projects in 5 years" (which is stating the obvious and should be equally true for Vite or turbopack at this point and very far from what you wrote).
Culture difference behind the misinterpretation maybe? The lack of self-inflation, exaggerated confidence and exceptionalism we might expect from Americanized presenters shouldn't be taken for insecurity or doubt ;)
I'd listen to what they say at face-value rather than trying to read the lines applying the wrong lens.
It's very early still, in alpha, and isn't recommended for production use outside of Next, where most of the focus on integration and tooling has been so far AFAIK.