Comment on Ask HN: Using Java for a web application in 2023Comments−karmakaze3yUnless you want a job, there are more lightweight/interesting frameworks than Spring/Boot. e.g. Javalin+JDBI, Quarkus, Micronaut.−re-thc3ySeeing more and more Quarkus (IBM / Redhat) and Micronaut (Oracle) jobs these days. It's not as bad anymore.−cryptos3yQuarkus is more or less in the same complexity league as Spring Boot.−karmakaze3yMy main issue with Spring/Boot isn't the complexity, it's the ineffectiveness of JPQL/JPA/Hibernate.−cryptos3yBut than I have bad news for you! Hibernate is also an important part of Quarkus. Anyway, neither Spring nor Quarkus force you to use Hibernate.−karmakaze3yYes I know. With Spring it's pretty unavoidable in common usage. I was hoping Quarkus was new enough to do something different than use 1999 EJB tech.
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Unless you want a job, there are more lightweight/interesting frameworks than Spring/Boot. e.g. Javalin+JDBI, Quarkus, Micronaut.
Seeing more and more Quarkus (IBM / Redhat) and Micronaut (Oracle) jobs these days. It's not as bad anymore.
Quarkus is more or less in the same complexity league as Spring Boot.
My main issue with Spring/Boot isn't the complexity, it's the ineffectiveness of JPQL/JPA/Hibernate.
But than I have bad news for you! Hibernate is also an important part of Quarkus. Anyway, neither Spring nor Quarkus force you to use Hibernate.
Yes I know. With Spring it's pretty unavoidable in common usage. I was hoping Quarkus was new enough to do something different than use 1999 EJB tech.