lol, “don’t worry, I hear people survive just fine without their arms or legs. We can endure a little more frostbite just fine”
This shouldn’t be the bar. The bar is avoiding a “global catastrophe” ie mass migration and the start of resource scarcity. All of which will occur significantly sooner than “global collapse”. It definitely requires more aggressive action early.
Obviously keep using oil and gas so we don’t shut off anyone’s heat or food supply tho. Otherwise, everything else including higher costs (ie total shit for many many people) should be utilized to avoid catastrophe.
I think a better analogy for my view is: "the world has frostbite on its toes. If we make rash policy changes we can stop the frostbite now, but we need to cut our legs off. If we relax the constraint of stopping the frostbite immediately, it will continue to get worse in the short term but we will only lose a foot."
This ignores the fact that we cannot stop climate change immediately even if we had perfect global coordination.
It's not about redefining the bar, it's about avoiding rash policies like biofuel subsisies which cause large harm for minimal gain.
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lol, “don’t worry, I hear people survive just fine without their arms or legs. We can endure a little more frostbite just fine”
This shouldn’t be the bar. The bar is avoiding a “global catastrophe” ie mass migration and the start of resource scarcity. All of which will occur significantly sooner than “global collapse”. It definitely requires more aggressive action early.
Obviously keep using oil and gas so we don’t shut off anyone’s heat or food supply tho. Otherwise, everything else including higher costs (ie total shit for many many people) should be utilized to avoid catastrophe.
I think a better analogy for my view is: "the world has frostbite on its toes. If we make rash policy changes we can stop the frostbite now, but we need to cut our legs off. If we relax the constraint of stopping the frostbite immediately, it will continue to get worse in the short term but we will only lose a foot." This ignores the fact that we cannot stop climate change immediately even if we had perfect global coordination.
It's not about redefining the bar, it's about avoiding rash policies like biofuel subsisies which cause large harm for minimal gain.