Thanks for the clarification and expansion! I was worried about dumping too many details on people while trying to convince them that Java can be easy too ;-)
But you're absolutely right on most of these points.
Loved the original article and the expansion in this post made it even better. Would you guys recommend any good books that cover JEE6 web services thoroughly? I'm an experienced java guy but have not dealt much with web services.
None. I usually rely on the source code + javadocs. I might be biased but I find that most Java source code and documentations tend to be easier to read due to common practices employed by newer projects.
I can only give you pointers to JavaEE 6 books (overall).
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Thanks for the clarification and expansion! I was worried about dumping too many details on people while trying to convince them that Java can be easy too ;-)
But you're absolutely right on most of these points.
All the formatting tricks are here: http://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc
Loved the original article and the expansion in this post made it even better. Would you guys recommend any good books that cover JEE6 web services thoroughly? I'm an experienced java guy but have not dealt much with web services.
None. I usually rely on the source code + javadocs. I might be biased but I find that most Java source code and documentations tend to be easier to read due to common practices employed by newer projects.
I can only give you pointers to JavaEE 6 books (overall).
Beginning GF3 is an OK introduction to JavaEE 6: http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-GlassFish-Experts-Voice-Tech...
Oracle Tutorial (formerly SUN tutorial) for JavaEE 6 is another OK one (reviews were meh, but you've got limited choice so...) http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/
I saw Amazon has the print edition and another one to be in stock by mid 2012 (Advanced Java EE 6...)
Here's another book covering Java EE6 (intro):
http://www.amazon.com/Java-EE-GlassFish-Application-Server/d...
Seems to cover Servlet more than Apress book (first book).
You probably would need to know JPA 2.0 (ORM) as well.
And some more "best practices/real world-ish" tutorials:
http://www.amazon.com/World-Night-Hacks-Dissecting-Business/...
Good luck.
http://www.amazon.com/Pro-JPA-Mastering-Persistence-Technolo...
Java is still verbose though :).
If JavaEE can reduce JPA2/Model boiler plate code, then it'll be much improved.