to be fair MBS is opening the society at a frightening pace, its no more required male tutor approval to marry (of "equal"status) or work (lmited by sharia decency), liberty of child custody (for minors 15-18), travel, study, etc...
They treat women with respect and dignity. What are you talking about? Women feel safe there. My mom likes to live there. I know because I've lived there for 18 years.
never talked to someone who lived there, do natives really leave during ramadhan because of "infections from africans and asians"? because thats what i've heard, 5-7 years ago that the natives take holidays in order to avoid the influx of foreigners
Probably not a representative sample, but I spent several days hanging out with a group of Saudi men and women at burning man. They all liked living there and were pretty open minded.
No, I haven't seen anything like this. Ramadhan is the best part of Saudi Arabia. It's a religious and business season. Stores stay open at night until 3 AM.
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Saudi Arabia builds things with modern day slavery.
Please read on kafala system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafala_system
Bonus negative points for treatment of women.
to be fair MBS is opening the society at a frightening pace, its no more required male tutor approval to marry (of "equal"status) or work (lmited by sharia decency), liberty of child custody (for minors 15-18), travel, study, etc...
[]https://www.thenationalnews.com/gulf-news/2022/03/09/women-w...
[]https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/mec/2021/02/15/the-new-saudi-persona...
They treat women with respect and dignity. What are you talking about? Women feel safe there. My mom likes to live there. I know because I've lived there for 18 years.
Oh for sure.
They just recently were allowed to start driving.
They just recently were allowed to get a passport and travel freely without permission from male guardian.
Male guardian approval is required to seek an abortion.
Male guardian permission required to marry.
There is still much segregation and inequality.
Family laws skews towards males, as they become guardians.
Child custody also skews towards males.
It is quite distant from the freedoms women experience in the western world.
I won't even mention the treatment of migrant female workers.
Saudi government is bound to it by the law of Shariah. We muslims believe in it.
It's just some miscreant peoples. No need to blame the government. They are trying their best to fight it.
never talked to someone who lived there, do natives really leave during ramadhan because of "infections from africans and asians"? because thats what i've heard, 5-7 years ago that the natives take holidays in order to avoid the influx of foreigners
Probably not a representative sample, but I spent several days hanging out with a group of Saudi men and women at burning man. They all liked living there and were pretty open minded.
No, I haven't seen anything like this. Ramadhan is the best part of Saudi Arabia. It's a religious and business season. Stores stay open at night until 3 AM.
Ramadan or Hajj? Do people really travel to SA for Ramadan?
hajj.... darn yeah