I enjoyed Meteor. Is there anything else out there right now that works as smoothly. Just install meteor and it installs a local copy of mongodb. Not a fan of mongo per-se, rather I'm a fan that meteor didn't require me to install it at a system level but instead installed it locally in the project at the version correct for that release of meteor. IIRC it even installed its own copy of node at a certain version. Loved it!
When I look into other frameworks today they all seem lacking. They expect me to setup the backend "how I want it" and then write my own glue. (and of course make all my own mistakes). Where as meteor, "it just worked" out of the box
I honestly think the best comparable stack now is Phoenix in Elixir with LiveView, especially if you're drawn to the realtime web aspect. And probably hosted on Fly.io where you can get a push-button start with database included (Postgres or SQLite). Great developer productivity, wonderful small community that manages to move together, rock solid, high performance for IO, little to no magic, you can take it from hobby horse to the major races. Excellently designed with both developer and application growth in mind, by which I partly mean that more advanced areas tend to be tucked away (but by no means hidden) until you feel you need them.
That said there's more to learn than with Meteor and there aren't Elixir devs growing under the steps of every apartment building like with JS.
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I enjoyed Meteor. Is there anything else out there right now that works as smoothly. Just install meteor and it installs a local copy of mongodb. Not a fan of mongo per-se, rather I'm a fan that meteor didn't require me to install it at a system level but instead installed it locally in the project at the version correct for that release of meteor. IIRC it even installed its own copy of node at a certain version. Loved it!
When I look into other frameworks today they all seem lacking. They expect me to setup the backend "how I want it" and then write my own glue. (and of course make all my own mistakes). Where as meteor, "it just worked" out of the box
I honestly think the best comparable stack now is Phoenix in Elixir with LiveView, especially if you're drawn to the realtime web aspect. And probably hosted on Fly.io where you can get a push-button start with database included (Postgres or SQLite). Great developer productivity, wonderful small community that manages to move together, rock solid, high performance for IO, little to no magic, you can take it from hobby horse to the major races. Excellently designed with both developer and application growth in mind, by which I partly mean that more advanced areas tend to be tucked away (but by no means hidden) until you feel you need them.
That said there's more to learn than with Meteor and there aren't Elixir devs growing under the steps of every apartment building like with JS.