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Just for fun, I timed myself doing the first one in both AppKit and SwiftUI. I started with Xcode running but no project created yet, and hit stop when the app was launched and I had clicked the count button. It took me 1m57s to do it in AppKit, and 3m16s in SwiftUI. (I'm far more experienced with AppKit than SwiftUI).

Nice. Just out of interest (since I'm new to AppKit), did you decide to use Storyboard or a XIB?

Storyboard, but I don’t think that would have made a difference in the time it took me.

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