I find it hard to be sympathetic to authors or other royalty paid workers collectively,
First off it's a little messed up to not care if people get paid for their work, second you say you're concerned with >giant corporations abusing laws generally
which is often the cause and in this case exactly the cause of the royalty paid workers not getting paid.
third, I often encounter variations of this attitude at HN which, considering that the mean wage of authors and writers https://www.bls.gov/ooh/media-and-communication/writers-and-... is $69,510 annually, and considering that many of the people on HN earn significantly more than that (I definitely do) seems especially gauche.
Now I don't know how much you earn per year, but if you are earning above that maybe it's messed up to think the people earning less than you should earn even less.
I just find it hard to get excited about George R Martin getting his copyright back so he can sell it again.
argument by outlier isn't that great, but it should also be noted that writers and authors are more like entrepreneurs in how they create and get paid for creation, so maybe it is fair that some people who take risks earn more than others when those risks succeed.
They're not being paid for their work, they're collecting royalty payments based on a government granted copyright monopoly.
Having a conversation about how that government intervention could be altered to make society better is something I'm here for. Discussing how it can be tilted more towards the people taxing the general population, and so directly fund the people that even this article thinks are the bad guys I'm less interested in.
Having said that, copyright termination is similar to what I propose to fix patents.
Any inventor should be able to re-auction their patent after 12-years to the highest bidder. It would immediately become clear that this would be writing a blank cheque and people would avoid using any patented work and we can move on with our lives in a more efficient post-patent era.
At the moment only a complex game of legal brinkmanship between corporations keeps this system stable.
This isn’t really about copyright, its about them promising to pay X for work Y, then refusing to pay X. The bigger authors in this case can afford good lawyers so they don’t have this problem. Its the authors who make 40-70k/yr where taking this to court would cost them most of the money they are owed.
If this goes in Disneys favor, than any transaction under the cost of legal action you can ignore paying if you are a large company.
A large companies legal costs per case is also lower as they have lawyers on staff and you don’t, so you end up paying the consultant rate (~3x more). The goal of the staff lawyer would be to drag the case out as long as possible to make you want to give up or run out of money (yours or lawyers contingency) to keep the suit going.
This (if it stands) would also be a great counter for your patent auction idea as they could just setup a shell to “buy” it, sell the patent back to themselves for $1 then have the shell declare bankruptcy (reality will be more tangled than this example) because they owe you money.
They're not being paid for their work, they're collecting royalty payments based on a government granted copyright monopoly.
yeah, which they have because they didn't get paid for their work, took a risk that it would sell, it did, and because they hold the copyright they can get a share of the money when it sells.
at any rate copyright and patents are not the same thing either, although they are certainly related.
Let’s go back to the fact this is partially started by a guy who has cancer and a company is selling copies of his books without paying him any money despite a contract saying he should get a exceedingly small portion of sales, being the original creator of the thing. This pie in the sky “well systemically this guy fighting cancer should just starve” isn’t a great position.
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First off it's a little messed up to not care if people get paid for their work, second you say you're concerned with >giant corporations abusing laws generally
which is often the cause and in this case exactly the cause of the royalty paid workers not getting paid.
third, I often encounter variations of this attitude at HN which, considering that the mean wage of authors and writers https://www.bls.gov/ooh/media-and-communication/writers-and-... is $69,510 annually, and considering that many of the people on HN earn significantly more than that (I definitely do) seems especially gauche.
Now I don't know how much you earn per year, but if you are earning above that maybe it's messed up to think the people earning less than you should earn even less.
argument by outlier isn't that great, but it should also be noted that writers and authors are more like entrepreneurs in how they create and get paid for creation, so maybe it is fair that some people who take risks earn more than others when those risks succeed.
They're not being paid for their work, they're collecting royalty payments based on a government granted copyright monopoly.
Having a conversation about how that government intervention could be altered to make society better is something I'm here for. Discussing how it can be tilted more towards the people taxing the general population, and so directly fund the people that even this article thinks are the bad guys I'm less interested in.
Having said that, copyright termination is similar to what I propose to fix patents.
Any inventor should be able to re-auction their patent after 12-years to the highest bidder. It would immediately become clear that this would be writing a blank cheque and people would avoid using any patented work and we can move on with our lives in a more efficient post-patent era.
At the moment only a complex game of legal brinkmanship between corporations keeps this system stable.
This isn’t really about copyright, its about them promising to pay X for work Y, then refusing to pay X. The bigger authors in this case can afford good lawyers so they don’t have this problem. Its the authors who make 40-70k/yr where taking this to court would cost them most of the money they are owed.
If this goes in Disneys favor, than any transaction under the cost of legal action you can ignore paying if you are a large company.
A large companies legal costs per case is also lower as they have lawyers on staff and you don’t, so you end up paying the consultant rate (~3x more). The goal of the staff lawyer would be to drag the case out as long as possible to make you want to give up or run out of money (yours or lawyers contingency) to keep the suit going.
This (if it stands) would also be a great counter for your patent auction idea as they could just setup a shell to “buy” it, sell the patent back to themselves for $1 then have the shell declare bankruptcy (reality will be more tangled than this example) because they owe you money.
yeah, which they have because they didn't get paid for their work, took a risk that it would sell, it did, and because they hold the copyright they can get a share of the money when it sells.
at any rate copyright and patents are not the same thing either, although they are certainly related.
Let’s go back to the fact this is partially started by a guy who has cancer and a company is selling copies of his books without paying him any money despite a contract saying he should get a exceedingly small portion of sales, being the original creator of the thing. This pie in the sky “well systemically this guy fighting cancer should just starve” isn’t a great position.