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> Apple corp gave Xerox a large chunk of Apple stock in exchange for a license to build on the work that Xerox had done.

The article mentions Apple gave Xerox stock options they could use on Apple's IPO.

> I've used an Alto and a Star (yes, I'm that old) and to call them a "GUI" isn't appropriate, given that they didn't' have real windows, etc.

That's weird. I know the Alto ran Smalltalk, which had overlapping Windows, but nothing like icons, a desktop entity or dragging stuff (not even the scrollbars were draggable - you had to click their sides for them to go up-down). IIRC, there was another environment that didn't have Windows (I remember seeing the Bravo text editor and a dual-pane file manager) and they were popular because the Alto ran them faster ST80.

As for the Star, it seems there are videos that document a more or less complete GUI with overlapping windows, draggable stuff, select-then-act semantics and so on.

Unless my memory fails me, the Lisa introduced the menu bar on the top, the trashcan and some dragging semantics that were not present on the Star. The folks at Digibarn have, AFAIK, a functioning Dandelion and can, probably, clear this up.

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