We know the US spies and so does China - this is not news.
We do not have evidence the NSA is doing industrial espionage.
Moreover, this is Huawei, not technically 'the state' and it's about the fact they are related to the state - and - they've had incredible access as part of their normal operations which is questionable.
China is the most aggressive and active state sponsor of hacking and they 100% do it for purposes of industrial espionage.
Literally 'leaving the door open' to every phone in a nation to a state-backed entity seems unthinkable in 2021.
It's probably going to be best if everyone uses local carrier gear and consulting entities for this kind of work the advantage of 'totally free trade' doesn't seem to be more than what would be lost otherwise.
Fyi, Snowden has claimed the NSA engages in industrial espionage [0] and there are leaked documents implicating the German security services for having helped them [1].
I agree about the ideal world solution being to only use home designed/produced tech. Sadly there are only a few companies on earth actually making this tech. For a long time the only company with a real 5G solution was Huawei. I'm as suspicious of the Chinese as the next rational human. I just think almost all telecoms infrastructure is compromised by the US, so its about picking the problem rather than avoiding it...
stories are all about a Chinese company once having done a thing they were asked to do...
The dutch governement and the dutch telecom providers did NOT ask any chinese governement or huwawei to eavesdrop or do any kind of work of the sorts.
From the source ( volkskrant )
"Huawei was in staat om zowel binnen KPN als vanuit China ‘ongeautoriseerd, ongecontroleerd en ongelimiteerd KPN-mobiele nummers af te luisteren’, inclusief die van ministers, toenmalig minister-president Jan Peter Balkenende en Chinese dissidenten. Tevens had Huawei inzicht in de database met afgetapte telefoonnummers. Dat is in strijd met de Telecommunicatiewet."
Roughly translates to: Huawei has unlimited access to listen to every KPN-number including those of ministers and chinese dissidents and had insights into databases with tapped phonenumbers without authorisation or oversight which was in violation with the Telecommunication law
This story is mainly about KPN's incompetence but also about the massive influence Huawei or the chinese government has over KPN's network. There's no evidence of misuse but there also wouldn't be any evidence to begin with if there was misuse as they had full control over the network.
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It's quite incredible really. We have undeniable proof the US spies on the EU, phone taps it's leaders, and uses the info to help US companies.
But the stories are all about a Chinese company once having done a thing they were asked to do...
We know the US spies and so does China - this is not news.
We do not have evidence the NSA is doing industrial espionage.
Moreover, this is Huawei, not technically 'the state' and it's about the fact they are related to the state - and - they've had incredible access as part of their normal operations which is questionable.
China is the most aggressive and active state sponsor of hacking and they 100% do it for purposes of industrial espionage.
Literally 'leaving the door open' to every phone in a nation to a state-backed entity seems unthinkable in 2021.
It's probably going to be best if everyone uses local carrier gear and consulting entities for this kind of work the advantage of 'totally free trade' doesn't seem to be more than what would be lost otherwise.
Fyi, Snowden has claimed the NSA engages in industrial espionage [0] and there are leaked documents implicating the German security services for having helped them [1].
I agree about the ideal world solution being to only use home designed/produced tech. Sadly there are only a few companies on earth actually making this tech. For a long time the only company with a real 5G solution was Huawei. I'm as suspicious of the Chinese as the next rational human. I just think almost all telecoms infrastructure is compromised by the US, so its about picking the problem rather than avoiding it...
[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/25907502
[1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/xw3qjj/germany-accused-of-sp...
What no. How did you even get to that conclusion?
Which conclusion? That the US wiretapped EU leaders [0]? Or something else?
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/30/nsa-leaks-us-b...
The dutch governement and the dutch telecom providers did NOT ask any chinese governement or huwawei to eavesdrop or do any kind of work of the sorts.
From the source ( volkskrant ) "Huawei was in staat om zowel binnen KPN als vanuit China ‘ongeautoriseerd, ongecontroleerd en ongelimiteerd KPN-mobiele nummers af te luisteren’, inclusief die van ministers, toenmalig minister-president Jan Peter Balkenende en Chinese dissidenten. Tevens had Huawei inzicht in de database met afgetapte telefoonnummers. Dat is in strijd met de Telecommunicatiewet."
Roughly translates to: Huawei has unlimited access to listen to every KPN-number including those of ministers and chinese dissidents and had insights into databases with tapped phonenumbers without authorisation or oversight which was in violation with the Telecommunication law
This story is mainly about KPN's incompetence but also about the massive influence Huawei or the chinese government has over KPN's network. There's no evidence of misuse but there also wouldn't be any evidence to begin with if there was misuse as they had full control over the network.