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I actually end up use the above description, "Internet as Wild West" quite a bit when trying to explain the internet to computer-illiterate people, because for some reason their skepticism filter fades away and they become all-too-trusting when the medium is something they are unfamiliar with. They seem to think that if someone was able to get something posted on the internet, well that person must certainly be a smart being in a position of goodwill.

Sure the internet functions as an information superhighway. It also functions as a den of thieves and swindlers, and people who elevate scams and pseudoscience to the look and feel of accurate information through mere the power of website presentation.

I have to tell my mother that just because something is on the internet doesn't mean it is important or true, and it certainly doesn't mean that the author necessarily has good intentions. I want her to consider it a Wild West.

The article accuses the narrative of sticking because it is "compelling" in the fanciful way, but I think the counter-argument here is the same problem. In many ways the internet is a Wild West. I think the argument is much more nuanced than saying it's not. I think the harder argument needs to be made with the wild west aspect as a given, but that an authoritarian clamp would make it a worse-off place.

I've learned web development over the past year. I can throw together a reasonable looking site, sell a reasonable product and obtain the most highly sensitive information from my customers in the process: their email and a password to my site, which, for probably about 50% of the population, is the same password for their email account and most other sites they visit.

And I have no training in database security.

Yeee haaaaw!

One would hope you're storing the passwords as salted hashes (preferably bcrypt) so that passwords won't get leaked no matter how bad you are at database security.

One would hope so. But many websites that keep personal data aren't very secure. Personal information is stolen online pretty often, and it often seems in hindsight that their information security was embarrassingly slack.

If you're a heavy internet user, your information is almost certainly stored in a database sitting on a machine running Windows XP. There can be several security patches in a month, and sys admins can be slow to install them. Are you OK with that?

I would change your "many" to "almost all". Very few websites, even sites that really should know much better (like Newegg or Gawker, both catering to technical audiences), actually implement things in a known safe manner. Many just do plaintext (like Newegg) and many an archaic and/or useless obfuscation mechanism (like Gawker's use of DES).

You should always act defensively when relying on any third-party. Very few are trustworthy. Use a reliable password management system for your passwords (like KeePass or mailing GPG-crypted passwords to yourself) and generate a unique pass for each site. Use a unique mail if you can. If you're storing any data on there, make sure it is encrypted and triple encrypted.

The problem with all the bemoaning of hackers, fraudsters and so on is that this is the real world. In real life, there's dodgy places you don't go because you're worried about crime, and there's always the risk that someone on a street will try to attack you. Similarly on the internet unless you're looking to learn that sort of stuff, you stay off hacker/warez/etc sites, but there's always the chance you might get bitten by a hacker or poisoned legit site.

If the internet was a Wild West movie, then effectively nobody would be able to go about their daily business without witnessing a gunfight. Malware may be a growing problem, but it's not like your typical user is getting fully infected by 1 piece of malware a day.

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