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If you don't like macOS or Macs, that's ok, but this seems like very poor reasoning...

Xcode

You either need it and can't switch to a non-Mac, or you don't need it. What's the argument here?

the omnipresent ‘Dock’ (never used it once)

I hide mine. In 12 years on a Mac this hasn't been an issue for me since I turned Dock hiding on 5 minutes in.

the omnipresent ‘Finder’

Finder isn't great, but I wouldn't say that the graphical file managers on Linux are particularly stellar either.

black magic in the ‘Terminal.app’

What "black magic" is this? Also iTerm2 is a wonderful piece of software.

Notifications (and its omnipresent menu hamburger icon)

Users do typically need to be notified about things. Is the problem that you want these somewhere else? Is it that you want to disable notifications? Because you do have full control over which apps can notify.

App store

What's the problem here? Since they moved system updates back out of the AppStore, it's very easy to just ignore it entirely.

start-up chord

If this is making it to your list of things you hate about macOS, you're really scraping the barrel.

Come on. Let's make better arguments than this. Let's be clear about our requirements, our biases, our specific likes and dislikes. This article has no substance to it, it's essentially clickbait.

There are many reasons to dislike macOS, there are many legitimate reasons to move to another OS on other hardware.

We make better decisions when we are more honest like this.

Agree, as far as 'I left Apple for reasons...' posts go, this one is very weak, there really is nothing in that article that is not irrelevant or trivially fixable. Even the 'things I miss' paragraph makes very little sense ('the fast browser', like Safari is in a special class of its own compared to browsers on other systems)?

IMO I think there have been way too many of these 'why I left Apple' posts, I don't see the point, they rarely add anything meaningful for anyone who hasn't already made up their mind and the discussion afterwards is always a repetition of the same tired anecdotes.

I'd guess anyone who doesn't like or need macOS is already running something else, and for those of use who still like macOS but also use other systems like myself it is trivially easy to run things in a VM so you can have the 'best of both worlds' (my opinion, YMMV).

Didn't they disable the startup chime, like, three years ago? I remember people being very excited to discover the `defaults write` command to re-enable it.

Update: four years ago: https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/enable-classic-startup-chim...

Xcode, you either need it and can't switch to a non-Mac, or you don't need it. What's the argument here?

The argument is don't giving in to a company that refuses to provide tooling across platforms.

It's like we had to install Windows to test our websites in Explorer. And at least Windows you could install on your own hardware.

That's a valid argument, but not the one being made in the article.

start-up chord is silent if your mac is muted prior to shutdown, isn't it?

Well, yes, but also, the arguments are much shorter when we're honest.

Apple is an overpriced fashion company. Ten words or less, end of fucking argument, nothing more should have ever been considered. The entire rest of the thread brings no useful details or counterarguments. If you want practical hardware, buy it from literally any other vendor for a substantial discount and possible improvement in quality.

Okay, that was rough and brutal. I don't know if we can have discussions that are so honest! Let's go back to whining about Finder.

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