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Yeah but those "low level details" are not portable between computer architectures, so why not stop whining.

And you can actually USE these low level details if you really want, with very low friction (if you are willing to lock down to specific architectures). Are you STILL whining?

C level (or Pascal if you're masochistic) is still a very nice abstraction, and for a lot of people it's everything they care about 99% of the time, to get all the control they need, while simultaneously ensuring they're not wasting any time fighting pointless language features that are mutually incompatible.

In the end everybody's using whatever they like. https://twitter.com/fabynou/status/1242517783092400129

As long as people are lyabble for the security exploits they produce I am all for it, hammer them hard with lawsuits.

Sorry, but that's a rough shifting of goalposts. The statement that I argued against clearly was "C is not low level". You might not have noticed that you shifted, because you have an agenda.

I have always been quite clear about it, it is even part of my profile.

But please let's stay focused and keep discussing specific points. When changing topic, we can make a new subthread.

Fair enough.

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