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Spaces is essential.

Not for the vast majority of OS X users. Sure, many of the tech-savvy Mac users I know use it, but none of the laymen do. And it's the laymen that Apple's primarily targeting, because they're a much bigger market and much easier to satisfy.

Not necessarily true or they would have stopped shipping things like the terminal.app a long time ago (or including python, ruby, etc.). Even apps like Automator are probably out of the scope of 'laymen'.

I'd wager that Terminal.app requires a lot less maintenance work than Spaces.

Especially considering how many basic features it is missing...

A working pgdn key, for example.

I only use it as a cheap way to mentally background apps that won't be looked at as often (e.g. iTunes, running a server in Terminal).

I find that the focus model tends to break down in Spaces for any multi-window application like Finder, Chrome, Emacs and Terminal. If every window of an application is going to jump to the top then that just adds extra work to switching desktops.

That being said, I do like the Application->Window switching model on it's own and wouldn't trade this for Virtual Desktops.

Spaces is, first and foremost, off by default meaning that it’s pretty likely that most people don’t know about it and have never used it. If Apple would consider it essential, it would be on by default.

Some people might think that Spaces is essential but Apple seems to disagree with them. (I’m not saying that Apple is right.)

I'm not sure where I stand on this, however, I'd like to provide one data point, one that I expect many HNers share. I'm primarily a web developer, though I do frequently work on Android projects or random hacking on some python projects ( sage anyone? ). For web development, I find spaces essential. I have several api docs open at any given time, eclipse for android stuff, Aquamacs ( emacs in cocoa ), potentially an Android emulator, a preview image from our designer, several browser tabs for email, roadmap, and backlog tasks and a team chat window.

I, too, thought that most people wouldn't really care much for spaces, however I have noticed several of my non-technical friends using and began wondering. The conclusion that I came to is that, if you replace my IDE with something like MS Word and my text editor with something else, perhaps Photoshop or Illustrator, you'd get roughly the same workflow that I have, just without the code.

Now, I'm not saying that Spaces is essential, but I this is one case where something we think is nerdy, is actually pretty main stream.

Since were on the topic of application visibility and switching. I'm wondering if there is a better way than spaces. It's obvious that full-screen mode with easy switching isn't it. I find that context switch to complicated though I'm not quite sure why - way back when I was on windows, that was the way I did things. Perhaps expose is underused?

I just use Cmd-H and Cmd-Tab. I tried Spaces when Leopard came out and found it to be more trouble than it was worth.

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