In the last 6 months there have been security breaches at Facebook [1] Google [2] Cisco [3] and look at those threads and some of these breaches are extremely amateurish and the general consensus is these things happen and the top voted responses mirror this attitude.
Yet on the same site on the threads about India, China and non US companies we see some kind of dissonance where these are reframed as showhow affecting these companies uniquely because of 'poor standards' and 'mediocre engineers' and the top voted responses reflect this.
Far from informed discussion this not only demonizes entire groups but creates and perpetuates prejudice that will no doubt impact everything from recruitment to general behavior. And this continues on discussions beyond security to things like corruption, surveillance and other issues.
A breach that involves a technical vulnerability is one of those things that happens, gets patched and everyone moves on.
One of the things when establishing a contract with a company like Wipro is that they operate on your systems from locked down rooms where disks, thumb drives, etc. are not allowed. A secure private link is setup to your corporate environment to ensure that your customer's data is not available to the outsourced firm to do with as they please.
A breach on Wipro which allowed an attacker to gain access to 11 customer systems (i.e. maybe some Fortune 500 companies) to me means they should pretty much go bankrupt because any sane customer will stop doing business with them as soon as they can. It speaks of incompetence and complete disregard for common safeguards. How can a breach into Wipro's corporate system in any way lead an attacker to Wipro's customer's data? An obvious one could be their employees sending customer credentials via the Wipro corporate email.
HN has a predominant US reader base. Its natural that they compare everything else in the world vs US. For ex: If China excels in bullet trains, a common rhetoric will be that they copied something from the US, China's human rights issues and then goes on to say about some failed bullet train project in California. I am not sure how those discussions invokes "intellectual curiosity", but still gets to the top of HN. I got sick of this. So I created a filter with some ML out of HN RSS feeds which filters posts that it thinks is not on par with "intellectual curiosity" theme. The filter has shown great improvements as I continue to give it valid inputs. This includes all those toxic bashing like in this one.
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How do we understand these kind of threads of HN?
In the last 6 months there have been security breaches at Facebook [1] Google [2] Cisco [3] and look at those threads and some of these breaches are extremely amateurish and the general consensus is these things happen and the top voted responses mirror this attitude.
Yet on the same site on the threads about India, China and non US companies we see some kind of dissonance where these are reframed as showhow affecting these companies uniquely because of 'poor standards' and 'mediocre engineers' and the top voted responses reflect this.
Far from informed discussion this not only demonizes entire groups but creates and perpetuates prejudice that will no doubt impact everything from recruitment to general behavior. And this continues on discussions beyond security to things like corruption, surveillance and other issues.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19565918
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18170174
[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19507225
A breach that involves a technical vulnerability is one of those things that happens, gets patched and everyone moves on.
One of the things when establishing a contract with a company like Wipro is that they operate on your systems from locked down rooms where disks, thumb drives, etc. are not allowed. A secure private link is setup to your corporate environment to ensure that your customer's data is not available to the outsourced firm to do with as they please.
A breach on Wipro which allowed an attacker to gain access to 11 customer systems (i.e. maybe some Fortune 500 companies) to me means they should pretty much go bankrupt because any sane customer will stop doing business with them as soon as they can. It speaks of incompetence and complete disregard for common safeguards. How can a breach into Wipro's corporate system in any way lead an attacker to Wipro's customer's data? An obvious one could be their employees sending customer credentials via the Wipro corporate email.
HN has a predominant US reader base. Its natural that they compare everything else in the world vs US. For ex: If China excels in bullet trains, a common rhetoric will be that they copied something from the US, China's human rights issues and then goes on to say about some failed bullet train project in California. I am not sure how those discussions invokes "intellectual curiosity", but still gets to the top of HN. I got sick of this. So I created a filter with some ML out of HN RSS feeds which filters posts that it thinks is not on par with "intellectual curiosity" theme. The filter has shown great improvements as I continue to give it valid inputs. This includes all those toxic bashing like in this one.