Can anyone here call out whether or not this looks like a viable thing?
For the solar, truly eternal case (which isn't strictly possible because sooner or later you're going to lose a bearing or blow a capacitor or something), I think the limiting factor would be less on the aerodynamic side and more on the power-to-weight ratio you're able to achieve with solar.
A lot of that is going to depend on things like power system efficiency, latitude, and altitude which makes it hard to give a definitive yea or nay on whether this is feasible. I'm not really an expert in power systems but from an aerodynamic perspective it seems at least within the realm of possibility.
Like anything, the details of the implementation are going to make it or break it but there's not enough concrete info in the video.
You're right... there's no beating entropy. But the limiting case seems to be the battery charge/discharge cycles, which floats around the 500 range. So that's close to a year-and-a-half flight.
Other concepts are using tube-and-wing or flying wing embodiments. But long slender wings need more material to stiffen the slender structure. Just look at NASA/AeroVironment Helios, which ripped itself apart in a modest wind. Using centrifugal stiffening as a design element within the TURN concept eliminates the aerodynamic/structural tradeoff, and permits much better airfoils than standard practice will allow... nearly three times more efficient to be precise. By reducing that much structural material the TURN system carries much more battery mass. Most HALE aircraft cap out at about 20-25% battery mass, nearly 80% of the TURN vehicle weight is allocated for energy storage.
He said below that "I'm the originator of the TURN concept, and owner of the company. I can answer any questions you guys have about the vehicle."
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For the solar, truly eternal case (which isn't strictly possible because sooner or later you're going to lose a bearing or blow a capacitor or something), I think the limiting factor would be less on the aerodynamic side and more on the power-to-weight ratio you're able to achieve with solar.
A lot of that is going to depend on things like power system efficiency, latitude, and altitude which makes it hard to give a definitive yea or nay on whether this is feasible. I'm not really an expert in power systems but from an aerodynamic perspective it seems at least within the realm of possibility.
Like anything, the details of the implementation are going to make it or break it but there's not enough concrete info in the video.
You're right... there's no beating entropy. But the limiting case seems to be the battery charge/discharge cycles, which floats around the 500 range. So that's close to a year-and-a-half flight.
Other concepts are using tube-and-wing or flying wing embodiments. But long slender wings need more material to stiffen the slender structure. Just look at NASA/AeroVironment Helios, which ripped itself apart in a modest wind. Using centrifugal stiffening as a design element within the TURN concept eliminates the aerodynamic/structural tradeoff, and permits much better airfoils than standard practice will allow... nearly three times more efficient to be precise. By reducing that much structural material the TURN system carries much more battery mass. Most HALE aircraft cap out at about 20-25% battery mass, nearly 80% of the TURN vehicle weight is allocated for energy storage.
Are you involved with this project? From where are you sourcing your figures?
He said below that "I'm the originator of the TURN concept, and owner of the company. I can answer any questions you guys have about the vehicle."
Now outdated: Note for moderators (who I assume scan new comments): Some of this users comments have shown up dead, probably because he's a new user who made a bunch of comments quickly. It would be nice if you could come and revive them.
You can go to the comment permalink and click "vouch" to do that yourself.
I did... an hour ago... and they were still dead when I posted that. I figured a bit of manual vouching was in order.
Also, emailing the mods directly using the Contact link in the footer is the most direct way to get their attention. They don't see all of the comments.
Ah, then maybe me doing the same just now pushed the "score" over the threshold.