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> Using the remote to enter search terms for Youtube is possible, but is a dreaded chore.

This is exactly what Apple is trying to tell: searching on TV is not what consumers want. If you ask me as a consumer, searching on TV just does not makes sense. I would search on my ipod and just tell my TV to show things I found.

This reminds me of reviews when first iPhone was released. One the problems reported was that it does not have all kind of ring levels as Nokia ("meeting", "silence", "vibrate and ring", etc.). And what actually people like me want is just silence and not.

But how would you tell your TV what to show you? I'm not talking about spending the evening lounging around searching for interesting things on the web. I'm talking about the 2 minutes to enter "Vienna Vegetable Orchestra" so you can find the video that you already know about.

Do you have one of these that you happily use? Are you referring to using the iPod as a remote to directly control it instead of the included remote? If so, and if you've got this working, I can agree with you that this is a much better model for operation.

I generally use the aluminum remote to control my Apple TV, and the Remote app on my iPhone to type stuff, because typing is ridiculously tedious with the remote. But I don't need to type all that often, so it's an OK tradeoff. Most of the things I want to do on my ATV don't involve typing.

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