The problem isn't that Ember has a lot of things you don't use; it's that the things that are there are much larger than their React counterparts. In terms of actual functionality, Ember doesn't provide anything that React+React Router doesn't. The difference in bundle size arises from the different ways Ember accomplishes the same end goal. This differences make it more suited to desktop apps loaded over high speed internet connections. My point is that as someone who's building PWAs designed to load as quickly as possible, it's unfortunate that Ember isn't even a possible contender due to the minimum bundle size.
- Observable objects and enumerables
- Models with a relationship framework
- Controllers
- A dependency injection framework
- A templating system
In addition the router also provides:
- Parsing of query strings in the router (React-Router does not do that)
- Explicit loading states
- Asynchronous routing
Whereas React-Router + React provides:
- A router
- A view layer
I also don't understand your complaint about PWAs and bundle size. Aren't PWAs supposed to fully cache all the Javascript after the first load so bundle size should be less important? And the competition to a PWA is a downloadable mobile app that's often many dozens of megabytes.
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The problem isn't that Ember has a lot of things you don't use; it's that the things that are there are much larger than their React counterparts. In terms of actual functionality, Ember doesn't provide anything that React+React Router doesn't. The difference in bundle size arises from the different ways Ember accomplishes the same end goal. This differences make it more suited to desktop apps loaded over high speed internet connections. My point is that as someone who's building PWAs designed to load as quickly as possible, it's unfortunate that Ember isn't even a possible contender due to the minimum bundle size.
I thought Ember provided:
- Observable objects and enumerables - Models with a relationship framework - Controllers - A dependency injection framework - A templating system
In addition the router also provides:
- Parsing of query strings in the router (React-Router does not do that) - Explicit loading states - Asynchronous routing
Whereas React-Router + React provides:
- A router - A view layer
I also don't understand your complaint about PWAs and bundle size. Aren't PWAs supposed to fully cache all the Javascript after the first load so bundle size should be less important? And the competition to a PWA is a downloadable mobile app that's often many dozens of megabytes.