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Comment on Ask HN: Has anyone experienced workplace training that made a difference?parent

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I don't suspect I'd ever have been a problem to my employers without them.

I mean you can honestly believe this and at the same time someone has a completely different perception of you.

for some it also kills productivity and incentivizes job flight

I've never heard of anyone leaving a job due to job training. I've heard and seen plenty leave due to a lack of it.

It's more than perception- if I had been called into unscheduled one-on-ones with management about incidents that happened, even where I feel like I did nothing wrong, that's a data point that matters. No one-on-ones after 25 years in industry, at least related to what you'd get training for, is a data set that you can rely on.

Imagine job training which is mandatory for staff but skipped by the upper-level executives, when it was one of their incidents that kicked off the whole reaction. Also imagine it is conducted in a very haphazard, incompetent, and counterproductive manner. One day a week for months, on all kinds of topics. Your deliverables schedule is not reduced but rather accelerated to make it even less enjoyable.

Anecdata is great, but those leaving (or avoiding) jobs that have that kind of managerial incompetence don't answer the surveys as "too much job training" even if that's what it was. There's no upside to making that your lead reason.

I've never heard of anyone leaving a job due to job training.

I've seen lots of people quit because a company is too stuffy/sterile/formal.

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