It's a very emacsy idea. I think, for better or worse, vim is centered around the goal of making a better editor. Emacs is centered around making a portable universe.
To be honest, I don't really like having a 'terminal' in vim. It makes more sense to just use the terminal, which is like, right there, one ctrl-z away.
I don't like Neovim's terminal mode because I need a terminal. I'm also a religious ctrl-z user. I use it when I want to be able to yy stuff out of the scrollback to use in the split with my code like parts of a live repl session or the output from curl.
- Vim is not a shell or an Operating System. You will not be able to run a
shell inside Vim or use it to control a debugger. This should work the
other way around: Use Vim as a component from a shell or in an IDE.
A satirical way to say this: "Unlike Emacs, Vim does not attempt to include
everything but the kitchen sink, but some people say that you can clean one
with it. ;-)"
In summary, it took it so long to get it because it explicitly goes against the original design (and I kind of think it was the right choice. Emacs already exists).
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Why did it take VIM so long to get this? Emacs has this feature for 30 years or so.
It's a very emacsy idea. I think, for better or worse, vim is centered around the goal of making a better editor. Emacs is centered around making a portable universe.
To be honest, I don't really like having a 'terminal' in vim. It makes more sense to just use the terminal, which is like, right there, one ctrl-z away.
I don't like Neovim's terminal mode because I need a terminal. I'm also a religious ctrl-z user. I use it when I want to be able to yy stuff out of the scrollback to use in the split with my code like parts of a live repl session or the output from curl.
Have you tried setting syntax=sh and turning on syntax colouring in the terminal, yet?
That does sound nice.
vim used to have this listed in :help design-not
- Vim is not a shell or an Operating System. You will not be able to run a shell inside Vim or use it to control a debugger. This should work the other way around: Use Vim as a component from a shell or in an IDE. A satirical way to say this: "Unlike Emacs, Vim does not attempt to include everything but the kitchen sink, but some people say that you can clean one with it. ;-)"
In summary, it took it so long to get it because it explicitly goes against the original design (and I kind of think it was the right choice. Emacs already exists).
Tmux solves that problem and most power vim users use tmux