>but I don't think that languages like Java and Ruby have changed the state of the art that is being discussed.
I would say Java has probably made it worse. Ruby is, however, (at least loosely) based on Smalltalk which IMO has the nicest OO library for the things it addresses (e.g. collections).
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>but I don't think that languages like Java and Ruby have changed the state of the art that is being discussed.
I would say Java has probably made it worse. Ruby is, however, (at least loosely) based on Smalltalk which IMO has the nicest OO library for the things it addresses (e.g. collections).