I’m not sure the benefit to Apple or other phone manufacturers. This looks like a substantial cost with zero benefit to those others than law enforcement. And substantial new risk for misuse or abuse.
What’s Ozzie’s true motivation? Is he looking to start a company running Clear and raking in patent revenue? I get why the governments want this, but not why a citizen would propose this.
If it weren’t Ray Ozzie, I would think this was just part of some propaganda push.
> I’m not sure the benefit to Apple or other phone manufacturers. This looks like a substantial cost with zero benefit to those others than law enforcement.
The benefit is that law enforcement has access to relevant information. Society has a vested interest in this provided it doesn't infringe any other rights. It's why warrants exist. If you have the ability to respect a warrant without hurting your customers, it should be illegal not to do so.
Obviously there are significant technical issues, which is why this is contentious; those are outside the scope of this comment.
You might be right, but you’re guessing. I’m pretty pro-crypto. I’m an anarchist. I am generally oriented towards non-governmental solutions to everything, including violence.
But even me, even with that bias, I still worry quite often about what evil can lurk behind cryptographic structures, and what effect wide availability of strong crypto will have on that.
I don’t know that it will be positive or negative... my gut says positive, but I worry. And so it’s not crazy to me to think Ozzie might be legitimately worried about people’s safety.
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I’m not sure the benefit to Apple or other phone manufacturers. This looks like a substantial cost with zero benefit to those others than law enforcement. And substantial new risk for misuse or abuse.
What’s Ozzie’s true motivation? Is he looking to start a company running Clear and raking in patent revenue? I get why the governments want this, but not why a citizen would propose this.
If it weren’t Ray Ozzie, I would think this was just part of some propaganda push.
> I’m not sure the benefit to Apple or other phone manufacturers. This looks like a substantial cost with zero benefit to those others than law enforcement.
The benefit is that law enforcement has access to relevant information. Society has a vested interest in this provided it doesn't infringe any other rights. It's why warrants exist. If you have the ability to respect a warrant without hurting your customers, it should be illegal not to do so.
Obviously there are significant technical issues, which is why this is contentious; those are outside the scope of this comment.
Money. His true motivation is money. Secondary to that is prestige; he "solved" this problem.
You might be right, but you’re guessing. I’m pretty pro-crypto. I’m an anarchist. I am generally oriented towards non-governmental solutions to everything, including violence.
But even me, even with that bias, I still worry quite often about what evil can lurk behind cryptographic structures, and what effect wide availability of strong crypto will have on that.
I don’t know that it will be positive or negative... my gut says positive, but I worry. And so it’s not crazy to me to think Ozzie might be legitimately worried about people’s safety.
Do you personally know him or is this just speculation ?
Because most entrepreneurs aren't running businesses primarily for the money.