Thanks for linking this. The community response is quite something.
"Even the short amount of time I wrote Eve taught me that programming doesn't need to be so complex.
If Eve didn't come along I wouldn't have believed you could program without loops.
If Eve didn't come along I wouldn't have thought twice about why all of the different layers of the stack communicated and passed data around in different ways.
If Eve didn't come along I wouldn't have believed you could just programming the happy case, because the runtime would run only the blocks of code that work with your state.
Rest assured that rethinking and reimagining programming has a bigger movement now than when you started and you helped drive it.
I still think learning some Eve is worth your time just to see and experience something very different. You can get started here: http://play.witheve.com/#/examples/quickstart.eve.
(This is Eve 0.2)
Recursion could be considered a form of looping. Eve does not have recursion either, see my above comment[0] on how Eve managed to apply computation to a bunch of values without loops.
I'm actually a fan of his, and mostly mean it tongue in cheek. I kickstarted Light Table with my last $50 after paying rent one month in college and, while somewhat disappointed in the outcome of that project, remain generally supportive of his dream big/fall short approach.
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In case you missed it, this project is no longer being actively developed: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/eve-talk/YFguOGkNrBo/E...
Thanks for linking this. The community response is quite something.
"Even the short amount of time I wrote Eve taught me that programming doesn't need to be so complex.
If Eve didn't come along I wouldn't have believed you could program without loops.
If Eve didn't come along I wouldn't have thought twice about why all of the different layers of the stack communicated and passed data around in different ways.
If Eve didn't come along I wouldn't have believed you could just programming the happy case, because the runtime would run only the blocks of code that work with your state.
Rest assured that rethinking and reimagining programming has a bigger movement now than when you started and you helped drive it.
Ruben" (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/eve-talk/YFguOGkNrBo/r_S9hNc...)
That's me.
I still think learning some Eve is worth your time just to see and experience something very different. You can get started here: http://play.witheve.com/#/examples/quickstart.eve. (This is Eve 0.2)
What's he referring to here?
Eve doesn't have loops, because the basic unit isn't a variable but a set of variables. So a computation is applied to every element in a value.
e.g.
x = [1, 2, 3]
x + 2
// x = [3, 4, 5]
I have since learned that APL does something similar, expect their basic unit is an array.
recursion?
Recursion could be considered a form of looping. Eve does not have recursion either, see my above comment[0] on how Eve managed to apply computation to a bunch of values without loops.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16631600
I wonder what Chris Granger will almost-build next.
What a nice thing to say.
I'm actually a fan of his, and mostly mean it tongue in cheek. I kickstarted Light Table with my last $50 after paying rent one month in college and, while somewhat disappointed in the outcome of that project, remain generally supportive of his dream big/fall short approach.
Sorry for my reaction then. So much is lost in text posts.
I'm grateful for your reaction (and OP's response) because the clarification made a substantial difference in how I interpreted that.