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Have you tried Toptal? As a tech-savvy Western client, we prefer them to sites like Upwork because of how they screen their developers and because their rates are more realistic for good talent (it's really hard to find good people in a place where prices race to the bottom).

And as a bonus, you'll probably find that the rates there are higher than what Upwork has converged on.

More on this - Toptal does have a much more challenging screening than upwork does. I signed up and had a skype interview with a real human, mostly to make sure my English was good. I then had to take a programming challenge. I think of myself as a reasonably good programmer but I failed the test on my first try.

I haven't taken it a second time yet, but its enough to show that you have to be good to get on their platform.

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