I think 95% of 'game' is simply to ask as many women as possible, and to not get discouraged when you get shot down. (personally, I think most of the effectiveness of the 'fast seduction' crap is that it gives you something to focus on besides getting shot down.)
Everyone wants something different, and there really is a strong 'right place at the right time' component. A woman who would have rejected you last night might be receptive tonight, etc..
This works, if you just want to get laid. My experience with on line dating was that you needed to differentiate yourself through better writing (and through writing personalized to the profile) and to lower your standards some. (let's be real here. the 'selection pressure' on line is even stronger than real life. You're competing against a hoard of lonely men, all of whom can lie about their stats. So unless you are lying (which really doesn't work to well once you meet) you aren't going to be able to compete on statistics.
But really, I think when looking for a 'real relationship' most of the 'pick up spots' are disproportionately loaded with people who are unable or unwilling to sustain a long-term relationship. I mean, that's fine if you are just looking to get laid; but I don't think it's a great filter to use when looking for a relationship.
Agreed, but I think you're missing something: there doesn't need to be two extremes here. There are more places to meet women than online and nightclubs.
Selection pressure is stronger online due to mere demographic differences alone - but there honestly are more places than online.
Interesting. I had wondered myself whether a large part of the success of "seduction techniques" is that the man using them can blame failure on his incorrect applicatino of the technique, rather than on something intrinsic to himself.
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I think 95% of 'game' is simply to ask as many women as possible, and to not get discouraged when you get shot down. (personally, I think most of the effectiveness of the 'fast seduction' crap is that it gives you something to focus on besides getting shot down.)
Everyone wants something different, and there really is a strong 'right place at the right time' component. A woman who would have rejected you last night might be receptive tonight, etc..
This works, if you just want to get laid. My experience with on line dating was that you needed to differentiate yourself through better writing (and through writing personalized to the profile) and to lower your standards some. (let's be real here. the 'selection pressure' on line is even stronger than real life. You're competing against a hoard of lonely men, all of whom can lie about their stats. So unless you are lying (which really doesn't work to well once you meet) you aren't going to be able to compete on statistics.
But really, I think when looking for a 'real relationship' most of the 'pick up spots' are disproportionately loaded with people who are unable or unwilling to sustain a long-term relationship. I mean, that's fine if you are just looking to get laid; but I don't think it's a great filter to use when looking for a relationship.
Agreed, but I think you're missing something: there doesn't need to be two extremes here. There are more places to meet women than online and nightclubs.
Selection pressure is stronger online due to mere demographic differences alone - but there honestly are more places than online.
Interesting. I had wondered myself whether a large part of the success of "seduction techniques" is that the man using them can blame failure on his incorrect applicatino of the technique, rather than on something intrinsic to himself.