This isn't quite hitting the spot to me (non-server hardware, you still administer the OS, single location), but it does seem indicative of a potential new wave of low-cost cloud providers.
Someone like Vultr, Linode, or DO is positioned well to deliver an "AWS lite" offering. They all have decent hardware, lots of locations, and a good delivery history. A bit of work to put together ELB/EC2/Lambda/S3 equivalents and a control panel would open up a new market. Especially if they offered low egress pricing.
For me it's on spot, I don't like Amzn, goog, msft blackbox. This is a decent HA system for 90% startup adding just backup will make it perfect. It's better then ELB/EC2/Lambda/S3 as it uses openstack api under your own control. I am happy customer of hetzner for 4 years which is better given personal data privacy better in Germany then in USA(initially that was the primary reason of choosing them, to get away from usa based data center after Snowden).
I just don't see how it's any different than what they had yesterday. You can buy two cheap non-server-hardware servers and put openstack or coreos on them and administer it yourself.
All they did here was pre-install openstack, but leave you to keep it updated. If you can't install it yourself, good luck upgrading it when a security release comes out.
I mentioned ELB/EC2/Lambda/S3 equivalents for 2 reasons. First, AWS is clearly the market share leader, so having a similar pattern might get more buyers. Second, it's a bit easier pattern for apps that aren't cloud aware. But, they could just offer hosted K8S with some add-on ingress controllers.
I also don't get what this offers over renting these machines individually. It can't really be some preinstalled software with no support whatsoever as installing usually is the easy part.
Installing is easy, yes, but installing right can be tricky for many folks. There's a ton of conflicting info on best practices. Not detracting from your point, I agree it doesn't make sense, just saying installing right can be hard too.
Vultr, DO, OVH are moving towards "AWS Lite". They offer or are rolling out their own solutions for object storage (S3). Block storage (EBS). Load Balancers (ELB).
OVH labs routinely spins stuff up and then shuts it down, so that's not a great path. It seems more like a product testbed, and not many products make it.
Which of these has S3 or ELB equivalents? I haven't seen that. I saw DO has failover ip addresses.
Ahh, yes. That's nice. Did a bit more searching and DO has them as well. So they are headed that way. Will be interesting to see if they both fill the other gaps.
I'd argue the config syntax is easier with HAProxy, but that's not the point. Folks using Linode / DO typically don't want to manage yet another thing.
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This isn't quite hitting the spot to me (non-server hardware, you still administer the OS, single location), but it does seem indicative of a potential new wave of low-cost cloud providers.
Someone like Vultr, Linode, or DO is positioned well to deliver an "AWS lite" offering. They all have decent hardware, lots of locations, and a good delivery history. A bit of work to put together ELB/EC2/Lambda/S3 equivalents and a control panel would open up a new market. Especially if they offered low egress pricing.
For me it's on spot, I don't like Amzn, goog, msft blackbox. This is a decent HA system for 90% startup adding just backup will make it perfect. It's better then ELB/EC2/Lambda/S3 as it uses openstack api under your own control. I am happy customer of hetzner for 4 years which is better given personal data privacy better in Germany then in USA(initially that was the primary reason of choosing them, to get away from usa based data center after Snowden).
I just don't see how it's any different than what they had yesterday. You can buy two cheap non-server-hardware servers and put openstack or coreos on them and administer it yourself.
All they did here was pre-install openstack, but leave you to keep it updated. If you can't install it yourself, good luck upgrading it when a security release comes out.
I mentioned ELB/EC2/Lambda/S3 equivalents for 2 reasons. First, AWS is clearly the market share leader, so having a similar pattern might get more buyers. Second, it's a bit easier pattern for apps that aren't cloud aware. But, they could just offer hosted K8S with some add-on ingress controllers.
I also don't get what this offers over renting these machines individually. It can't really be some preinstalled software with no support whatsoever as installing usually is the easy part.
Installing is easy, yes, but installing right can be tricky for many folks. There's a ton of conflicting info on best practices. Not detracting from your point, I agree it doesn't make sense, just saying installing right can be hard too.
Vultr, DO, OVH are moving towards "AWS Lite". They offer or are rolling out their own solutions for object storage (S3). Block storage (EBS). Load Balancers (ELB).
Check out OVH Labs they are in the process of deploying many more services https://www.runabove.com/index.xml
OVH labs routinely spins stuff up and then shuts it down, so that's not a great path. It seems more like a product testbed, and not many products make it.
Which of these has S3 or ELB equivalents? I haven't seen that. I saw DO has failover ip addresses.
Linode has load balancers available. I wouldn't call them ELB equivalents, but they do work as adequate LBs for many needs.
Ahh, yes. That's nice. Did a bit more searching and DO has them as well. So they are headed that way. Will be interesting to see if they both fill the other gaps.
HAProxy is so easy guys... its like configuring nginx
Sure. The context here, though, is rooting for someone to make a low cost AWS alternative. We can roll our own cloud, but that's a different topic.
I'd argue the config syntax is easier with HAProxy, but that's not the point. Folks using Linode / DO typically don't want to manage yet another thing.
Nowdays. In the 1.5 days regidel and such was hard.