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point : in your enterprisey java/.NET shop, you can play with clojure, scala, F#, groovy, j/iron Ruby/python, axum. Fun stuff. Write tests, build tools, analytics. if you get called on it, you can argue it takes less time to write support structure code in __, and you're a busy guy.

I'd love to see Perl6 released. By incorporating first order content free grammers, it could the same for CFGS that Perl did for regexes. That would be world changing.

As for PHP: structured, clean PHP (written by people with an education and development experience in other languages) looks like Java. So why not just use Java: you get better performance (without having to compile it to C++) and access to great libraries. Of course, now that you're on the JVM you might as well start using better languages (Scala, Clojure, JRuby), which to operations look like just another jar/war file.

oh, yeah, the canonical lecture about you may not especially enjoy java and C# the languages but the JVM and .NET platforms are pretty evolved platforms, nice IDE plugins, gazillions of well-tested libs for any common needs.

Don't forget VS2010 out in 12 days, woohoo! And i'm not sure what it means to combine Hotspot, OpenJDK and JRockit but it'll be excitin'

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