Recently I put a cutting-edge, hardcore (low-level, C, cpu architecture, smp, concurrency type job) startup job post to Naukri and I only seem to get mediocre responses.
I believe it's a two sided issue, there aren't that many talented people or as the saying goes, those that are talented have already moved to western countries.
I really really would like to find talented people from India but it doesn't seem that easy.
I've never needed to use job sites to get a job, touch wood. I am not using any. My point was that job sites are deluged by enterprise sw jobs.
Note that the job post under discussion wasn't put up on Monster.com. How then is your experience equivalent?
"Recently I put a cutting-edge, hardcore (low-level, C, cpu architecture, smp, concurrency type job) startup job post to Naukri and I only seem to get mediocre responses."
Naukri sucks. And advertising on Naukri rarely works unless you are some kind of bodyshopper like TCS or Wipro. No self respecting hacker looks ofr a job on Naukri (or any job borad for that matter).
" there aren't that many talented people"
yeah sure! Indian developers are untalented because they choose t live in India ;-)
" those that are talented have already moved to western countries."
partially but not completely true. Many ultra talented devs don't want to immigrate. Just shows you are fairly unplugged from the local hacker scene.
"I really really would like to find talented people from India but it doesn't seem that easy."
Well it is not as easy as putting up a job posting on a sucky site(naukri) and sitting back and waiting, which is what you seem to have done (I am extrapolating from your posting here, I could be wrong).
More constructively, do you have a website for your company? Are you funded? Do you have a blog? Who are you ? What exactly are you doing? Are you plugged in to the local hacker networks? Are you hacker yourself? Do you have any open source contributions we can judge you by?
If you can provide a link to your job post I may be able to give better feedback. My email is in my profile as well.
In my opinion, the current job sites in India are completely broken for the smart programmers who are looking for interesting work. And the few companies/startups who would like to hire such people again fail miserably (most of the times) when they try out these sites.
These sites cater to the majority - companies doing low-end services work & average programmers. (Sorry for sounding elitist here.)
It is a very good opportunity for a startup to bridge this gap. Make a smart programmer meet a smart company.
HN seems to be a good place to reach out for good people but a country/location specific (apart from Silicon Valley) job post doesn't stand much chance of being on the front page for long.
It would have been great if we had a job board for HNers where job posts can only be made by people with a certain karma threshold (e.g. 500) and each of it costs 50 points for the submitter. Allow browsing through the job posts based on locations/countries and type of work.
It is no different from any other job listing out there, but since it comes from a HN user I think it would have a higher chance of being interesting enough for people who hang around here (and other smart people as well who are not on HN).
would you mind providing your contact information (didn't seem to find anything in your profile). i am in india, with approx the skill-set you are looking for, and am on the fence w.r.t the job scene (our company just got bought by a large networking company)
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Which job sites in india are you using?
Recently I put a cutting-edge, hardcore (low-level, C, cpu architecture, smp, concurrency type job) startup job post to Naukri and I only seem to get mediocre responses.
I believe it's a two sided issue, there aren't that many talented people or as the saying goes, those that are talented have already moved to western countries.
I really really would like to find talented people from India but it doesn't seem that easy.
"Which job sites in india are you using?"
I've never needed to use job sites to get a job, touch wood. I am not using any. My point was that job sites are deluged by enterprise sw jobs.
Note that the job post under discussion wasn't put up on Monster.com. How then is your experience equivalent?
"Recently I put a cutting-edge, hardcore (low-level, C, cpu architecture, smp, concurrency type job) startup job post to Naukri and I only seem to get mediocre responses."
Naukri sucks. And advertising on Naukri rarely works unless you are some kind of bodyshopper like TCS or Wipro. No self respecting hacker looks ofr a job on Naukri (or any job borad for that matter).
" there aren't that many talented people"
yeah sure! Indian developers are untalented because they choose t live in India ;-)
" those that are talented have already moved to western countries."
partially but not completely true. Many ultra talented devs don't want to immigrate. Just shows you are fairly unplugged from the local hacker scene.
"I really really would like to find talented people from India but it doesn't seem that easy."
Well it is not as easy as putting up a job posting on a sucky site(naukri) and sitting back and waiting, which is what you seem to have done (I am extrapolating from your posting here, I could be wrong).
More constructively, do you have a website for your company? Are you funded? Do you have a blog? Who are you ? What exactly are you doing? Are you plugged in to the local hacker networks? Are you hacker yourself? Do you have any open source contributions we can judge you by?
If you can provide a link to your job post I may be able to give better feedback. My email is in my profile as well.
Off topic:
In my opinion, the current job sites in India are completely broken for the smart programmers who are looking for interesting work. And the few companies/startups who would like to hire such people again fail miserably (most of the times) when they try out these sites.
These sites cater to the majority - companies doing low-end services work & average programmers. (Sorry for sounding elitist here.)
It is a very good opportunity for a startup to bridge this gap. Make a smart programmer meet a smart company.
HN seems to be a good place to reach out for good people but a country/location specific (apart from Silicon Valley) job post doesn't stand much chance of being on the front page for long.
It would have been great if we had a job board for HNers where job posts can only be made by people with a certain karma threshold (e.g. 500) and each of it costs 50 points for the submitter. Allow browsing through the job posts based on locations/countries and type of work.
It is no different from any other job listing out there, but since it comes from a HN user I think it would have a higher chance of being interesting enough for people who hang around here (and other smart people as well who are not on HN).
would you mind providing your contact information (didn't seem to find anything in your profile). i am in india, with approx the skill-set you are looking for, and am on the fence w.r.t the job scene (our company just got bought by a large networking company)
I couldn't find any on yours either. We're not hiring right now but please contact me on bahadir@l4dev.org and lets keep in touch.