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I am writing code to use authorize.net's CIM.

Here's the problem.

I don't like taking more information than is needed from people. I don't intend to take CVN numbers, and I don't intend to take Street addresses. You don't need them. All you need is a zip code for verification. I know people that run telephone chat lines. They only take zip codes, because people are typing everything into their telephones. No letters allowed.

Also, you'll note that 37 signals only takes a zip code. No CVN, no street address.

So, I log into my Authorize.net account, go to the virtual terminal, enter a transaction with only zip code verification. It works. No problem.

I go to their CIM panel, try to enter the same information. They tell me I need street address. Authorize.net tech support is extremely unhelpful, telling me to talk to Visa, ignoring that they allowed the exact same transaction through another area of their site.

So, I'm paying $25 a month for CIM, for the privelege of being forced to make my users life unnecessarily complicated. I have a problem with that.

If I can safely store those numbers without CIM, I intend to do so.

Well then, the method I described earlier would work for you; Exposure is limited to clients actually giving their passwords and/or using the credit cards _while the system is compromised_ ; It mitigates the risk that you keep hearing about in breaches, of _all_ accounts being exposed.

And just remember, that by storing those numbers locally, you're also taking potential liability for things that go wrong. To assess how much that is in cash, call a few insurance companies and ask them to give you a quote. Assume they have 25% markup on the real cost; That's how much you are "paying", although you are not doing it out-of-pocket (Though, in a catastrophic event, you _will_ be paying a lot)

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